Ohio State All-00's Team

[Buckeye86]

as someone pointed out...you can't really put Sims at Tackle....he played guard.

he played guard, got moved to tackle for a year out of necessity, played remarkably well, and then moved back to guard when Boone came to town

I actually agree with him being the best LT for the decade, but like I said, that is pretty sad all things considered

edit: he is listed as the starting LT for 2003 and 2004 and the starting LG for 2005 with Doug Datish starting at LT... so I was a year premature on who moved him over... but still, he played two years at LT and only one at LG

 

[LordJeffBuck]

OFFENSE:

1st Team
QB Troy Smith
RB Beanie Wells
FB Jamar Martin
WR Michael Jenkins
WR Santonio Holmes
TE Ben Hartsock
C Nick Mangold
G [strike]TJ Downing[/strike] Rob Sims
G Alex Stepanovich
T Kirk Barton
T [strike]Rob Sims[/strike] Shane Olivea

2nd Team
QB Craig Krenzel
RB [strike]Antonio Pittman[/strike] Maurice Clarett
FB [strike]Branden Joe[/strike]
WR Ted Ginn Jr.
WR Brian Robiskie
WR Anthony Gonzalez
TE Darnell Sanders
C LeCharles Bentley
G Doug Datish
G [strike]Adrien Clarke[/strike] T.J. Downing
T [strike]Tyson Walter[/strike] J.B. Shugarts
T [strike]Shane Olivea[/strike] Alex Boone

Honorable Mention: [strike]Anthony Gonzalez[/strike], Terrelle Pryor, Jonathan Wells, Antonio Pittman, Brian Hartline, Michael Brewster, Justin Boren, [strike]Steve Rehring[/strike], [strike]Alex Boone[/strike]

DEFENSE

1st Team
DT [strike]Quinn Pitcock[/strike] Tim Anderson
DT [strike]Kenny Peterson[/strike] Darrion Scott
DE Will Smith
DE Vernon Gholston
OLB AJ Hawk
OLB Bobby Carpenter
MLB James Laurinaitis
CB Malcolm Jenkins
CB Chris Gamble
S Mike Doss
S Will Allen

2nd Team
DT [strike]Tim Anderson[/strike] Ryan Pickett
DT Doug Worthington
DE [strike]Jamar Martin[/strike] Thad Gibson
DE Cameron Heyward
OLB Marcus Freeman
OLB Ross Homan
MLB Matt Wilhelm
CB [strike]Chimdi Chekwa[/strike] Ashton Youboty
CB [strike]Donald Washington[/strike] Nate Clements
S Kurt Coleman
S Donte Whitner

Honorable Mention: [strike]Nader Abdallah[/strike], Quinn Pitcock, Simon Fraser, Anthony Schlegel, Brian Rolle, Mike Kudla, Cie Grant, Nate Salley, Dustin Fox, Derek Ross, Chimdi Chekwa, Donald Washington, Donny Nickey

SPECIAL TEAMS

1st Team
K Mike Nugent
P Andy Groom
PR Ted Ginn

2nd Team
K Josh Huston
P B.J. Sander
PR Ray Small

Honorable Mention: A.J. Trapasso, Dan Stultz, Santonio Holmes

A pretty good list, with some glaring oversights - Ashton Youboty, Darrion Scott, Maurice Clarett, Thad Gibson, Jonathan Wells, Ryan Pickett, and Nate Clements.

It's tough to put LeCharles Bentley on the second team, as he is the second-best OL on the list behind Mangold. In reality, I'd switch one of them to guard and drop Stepanovich down to second team. Ironically, the third-best lineman on the list might be honorable mention center Michael Brewster.

At safety, Doss is the clear #1, with Allen and Whitner basically being even for the #2 and #3 slots, and Coleman and Nickey being fairly even for the #4 and #5 slots.

At running back, Clarett and Beanie Wells are basically even, but I gave the slight edge to Wells due to length of service.

If my #2 fullback has to be Branden Joe, then I'll drop the FB, go with three wides, and add Anthony Gonzalez to the second team.

Quinn Pitcock is probably the most overrated player on this list, and deserves nothing more than honorable mention, IMHO.

Darrion Scott is probably the most underrated player on this list - clear first teamer, IMHO.

Nader Abdallah and Steve Rehring don't even deserve honorable mention, IMHO.

At quarterback, you could make a good argument for Pryor over Krenzel ... of course that argument would have to focus on statistics and ignore the 2002 national championship season.

NINE cornerbacks on the list.

Jonathan Wells rushed for 1,294 yards and scored 16 touchdowns in 2001, including 129 yards and 3 TD's against Michigan. He deserves honorable mention.

Heyward is very close to being first team over Gholston.

Marcus Freeman doesn't really belong on the second team, but there's really no one better to take his place.

Lots of talent last decade ... how many of the players on the list will eventually be members of the College Football Hall of Fame? Probably Smith, Doss, Laurinaitis, Hawk, Ginn, and Nugent ... maybe Malcolm Jenkins, Bentley, Mangold, and Pryor.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'd "move" Bently to guard to get him on the first team. He was undoubtedly one of the two best OL of the decade in my mind and needs to be on the first team.

I agree with LJB that Olivea and Barton were the two best tackles of the decade.The crazy part is if you let me move Bently you get an all decade OL like this:

LG Bently
C Mangold
RG Stepanovich
RT Olivea

All frickin decade team and we still can't field a decent LT. :(


EDIT
Didn't see LJB said the exact same thing about Bently above. Disregard.

I'm loving that JT and company are obviously working to fix this issue.

 

[Mrstickball]

I agree with this.. but on the flip side, MoC won a national title..

And Beanie's gonna win a Superbowl!

But in all seriousness:

I'd rather take guys that spent 3 years in the system (Pittmann and Wells) over a guy that went one-and-done. This is about contribution to the Buckeyes. No one gives better effort than the guys that put their heart and soul into a system for 3 or even 4 years.

Yes, MC helped with a national championship. But Beanie was a major reason we were in the running for NCs two years straight. That speaks more volumes for Beanie than Clarett, IMO. If Clarett stayed, OSU would have done a lot better in the 03 and 04 seasons, and maybe had another NC under their belt.

 

[jwinslow]

It depends on the context of the list. If I'm picking an OSU HoF team, I pick beanie. If I'm picking the best players to don a uniform last decade, I pick MoC.

 

[Bleed S & G]

And Beanie's gonna win a Superbowl!

But in all seriousness:

I'd rather take guys that spent 3 years in the system (Pittmann and Wells) over a guy that went one-and-done. This is about contribution to the Buckeyes. No one gives better effort than the guys that put their heart and soul into a system for 3 or even 4 years.

Yes, MC helped with a national championship. But Beanie was a major reason we were in the running for NCs two years straight. That speaks more volumes for Beanie than Clarett, IMO. If Clarett stayed, OSU would have done a lot better in the 03 and 04 seasons, and maybe had another NC under their belt.

Would be interesting to see the 2003 team with MoC.. would have been a bad, bad, bad ass team. Not to mention our recruiting would not have suffered with ESPNs witch hunt.

Oh well..

 

[BuckNut65]

I think you have to put Bentley at 1st team. He won the Rimington Award in 2001 which has got to count for something. He also made as many Pro Bowls as Mangold has so far. Can't see Shugarts as a second teamer.

Glad to see someone finally put Darrion Scott on their 1st or 2nd team. He was a beast on the DL with Kenny P.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Can't see Shugarts as a second teamer.

Here are the primary starters at OT during the decade of the 2000's:

Adrien Clarke
Henry Fleming
Tyson Walter
Ivan Douglas
Rob Sims
Shane Olivea
Kirk Barton
Doug Datish
Alex Boone
Bryant Browning
Jim Cordle
Andy Miller
Mike Adams
J.B. Shugarts

My list already has Barton (first team), Olivea (first team), Sims (first team guard), Boone (second team), and Datish (second team guard).

That leaves Clarke, Fleming, Walter, Douglas, Browning, Cordle, Miller, Adams, and Shugarts to fill the final second-team tackle spot. No one in that group really stands out, so I went with Shugarts based on a solid 2009 season plus potential.

 

[BuckNut65]

That leaves Clarke, Fleming, Walter, Douglas, Browning, Cordle, Miller, Adams, and Shugarts to fill the final second-team tackle spot. No one in that group really stands out, so I went with Shugarts based on a solid 2009 season plus potential.

One thing I think should be taken into consideration are guys that were versatile and were able to play multiple positions and hold their own. I think both Datish and Douglas both fit into that category. Douglas would have had a very good career here if not for the blood clot issues.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Here are the primary starters at OT during the decade of the 2000's:

Adrien Clarke
Henry Fleming
Tyson Walter
Ivan Douglas
Rob Sims
Shane Olivea
Kirk Barton
Doug Datish
Alex Boone
Bryant Browning
Jim Cordle
Andy Miller
Mike Adams
J.B. Shugarts

My list already has Barton (first team), Olivea (first team), Sims (first team guard), Boone (second team), and Datish (second team guard).

That leaves Clarke, Fleming, Walter, Douglas, Browning, Cordle, Miller, Adams, and Shugarts to fill the final second-team tackle spot. No one in that group really stands out, so I went with Shugarts based on a solid 2009 season plus potential.

I had completely forgotten about Tyson Walter.

Personality issues aside, he was probably at least as good of a RT as Olivea and certainly was a step ahead of Barton.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I had completely forgotten about Tyson Walter.

Personality issues aside, he was probably at least as good of a RT as Olivea and certainly was a step ahead of Barton.

Wherever Walter's name ends up, I'm going to make sure it's right next to Bentley's. :box:

 

[stkoran]

Agree with LJB's list, only I'd have Peterson over Worthington for 2nd team DT, with Doug HM, and Walter of Shuggarts for 2nd team RT.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

I had completely forgotten about Tyson Walter.

Personality issues aside, he was probably at least as good of a RT as Olivea and certainly was a step ahead of Barton.

Agree with LJB's list, only I'd have Peterson over Worthington for 2nd team DT, with Doug HM, and Walter of Shuggarts for 2nd team RT.

Yeah, Walter probably deserves to be there. He had some character issues, but so did MoC, Troy Smith, and a couple of other guys on the list.

 

[AthensBuckeye]

Thought I'd take a stab at this.

OFFENSE:

1st Team
QB Troy Smith
RB Beanie Wells
FB Jamar Martin
WR Michael Jenkins
WR Santonio Holmes
TE Ben Hartsock
C Nick Mangold
G TJ Downing
G Alex Stepanovich
T Kirk Barton
T Rob Sims

2nd Team
QB Craig Krenzel
RB Antonio Pittman
FB Branden Joe
WR Ted Ginn Jr.
WR Brian Robiskie
TE Darnell Sanders
C Lecharles Bentley
G Doug Datish
G Adrien Clarke
T Tyson Walter
T Shane Olivea

Honorable Mention: Anthony Gonzalez, Steve Rehring, Alex Boone

DEFENSE

1st Team
DT Quinn Pitcock
DT Kenny Peterson
DE Will Smith
DE Vernon Gholston
OLB AJ Hawk
OLB Bobby Carpenter
MLB James Laurinaitis
CB Malcolm Jenkins
CB Chris Gamble
S Mike Doss
S Will Allen

2nd Team
DT Tim Anderson
DT Doug Worthington
DE Jamar Martin
DE Cameron Heyward
OLB Marcus Freeman
OLB Ross Homan
MLB Matt Wilhelm
CB Chimdi Chekwa
CB Donald Washington
S Kurt Coleman
S Donte Whitner

Honorable Mention: Nader Abdallah, Mike Kudla, Cie Grant, Nate Salley, Dustin Fox

SPECIAL TEAMS

1st Team
K Mike Nugent
P Andy Groom
PR Ted Ginn

2nd Team
K Josh Huston
P B.J. Sander
PR Ray Small

Honorable Mention: A.J. Trappasso, Dan Stultz, Santonio Holmes

Overall, very difficult to argue this list.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

Heyward is very close to being first team over Gholston.

It is close. Gholston, when on, was one of the better pass rushers of the past decade (IMO). The 'problem' that he seemed to have that kept him from being an all timer and an award winner was the fact that he was inconsistent. He seemed to disappear in some parts of games. I'd almost rather have Heyward starting and bring in Gholston fresh off the bench. That would be hell for any team. Heyward isn't as good of a pass rusher, but he's a hell of an overall DE and might end up as one of OSU's better DEs if he has a great '10 season.