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Game Thread Ohio State 38, Toledo 0 (Sep 19, Browns Stadium)

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Just got back from the game, and other than being sunburnt, what an awesome game. Great atmosphere, OSU played great (other than the picks, and the presnap OL penalities.) Jordan Hall looked great running the ball, and the D was ridiculously stout.
 
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MondayAMGenius;1545688; said:
You make some good points, but I don't think those who complain about the ISO play up the middle are necessarily jackasses. This play has been run 25 times already this year with maybe 1 success, and usually on 1st down.

I'm sure you agree that it's OK to cheer the bucks but question at the same time.. Go Bucks:osu:
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Tressel will gladly run the same unsuccessful ISO play 75 times, because he's just setting up film to throw in a wrinkle against Penn St or Michigan.

He always does.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye;1545731; said:
I had to run an errand after the game and didn't see any post-game. What did he say this time?
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He said, "Hey Buckeye Planet, get off my nuts. I know you hate me, you don't need to bring it up on every page of every thread."
 
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MondayAMGenius;1545688; said:
I'm sure you agree that it's OK to cheer the bucks but question at the same time.. Go Bucks:osu:
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Of course. I think I expressed some of those very questions in my post. In my view, it's along the same lines as the distinction between questioning/criticism and bashing that we make here at BP.

Smooth Olaf;1545712; said:
I disagree. If a fan pays money to see the game, he has every right to boo, especially then.
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Of course they have the right, but I don't think they are right. My remains - especially since you mentioned people paying money, "What do the Buckeyes owe you?" Personally I don't think the Buckeyes "owe" me play action or speed option on first down - what I get in return for my money is the experience - win or lose, good or bad.

Back to the actual game - I hope this thread doesn't get sidetracked too much. I don't disagree at all with running the ball in that situation. The Buckeyes need to be able to run in that kind of situation and they need the work to get better at it. They were already up three scores in that situation and were fully in control of the game. I think that was the proper context for Tressel to challenge his offense to get it done.
 
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Smooth Olaf;1545712; said:
I disagree. If a fan pays money to see the game, he has every right to boo, especially then. Personally, I won't ever accuse a paying fan of being "not a true fan" for booing. Heck, not only was I unsurprised at the booing, I was expecting it.

That being said, it was a great showing by the defense and a very good showing by the offense. There is still work to be done, but I can't be nothing but pleased at the outcome.
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Why does paying money make any difference? You can go to Pop Warner games and boo for free....

"True fans" do what they can to help their team succeed. Question: Does booing your team help them or hurt them?
 
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LordJeffBuck;1545751; said:
Why does paying money make any difference? You can go to Pop Warner games and boo for free....

"True fans" do what they can to help their team succeed. Question: Does booing your team help them or hurt them?
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Probably a lot of Browns fans at the game today. They're used to booing their team. :p
Of course the Browns usually deserve it.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1545751; said:
Why does paying money make any difference? You can go to Pop Warner games and boo for free....

"True fans" do what they can to help their team succeed. Question: Does booing your team help them or hurt them?
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God I hate the "True fans" belief. What does it take to be a "True fan?" Do I have to drink the Kool-Aid and believe my team can do no wrong? Am I a False-fan just because I'm discouraged with my team's power running game?

As for your question, hopefully neither. Coaches, at least the good ones, don't call their plays based off how the audience will react. The booing didn't hurt, it didn't help, it just showed the fans' displeasure. Should the fans have cheered? Should they have given the proverbial, "Awww...that's okay. You're trying. Here's your participation trophy," kind of response? The result of the play warranted boos, just as the result of almost every other play warranted cheers.

I guess what bothers me is when people criticize fans for booing.
 
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My thoughts

1-The play calling wasn't all that different from USC, Pryor just played better, against a much weaker D.

2-Pryor still needs work on his reads-if the 1st option isn't open-trouble. I was glad he got a couple of big runs.

3- The D was killer-Heyward was looking like a rabid bear out there. I loved seeing Chekwa saran wrap Williams 1 on 1.

4-Jordan Hall needs to see time in the 1st quarter, not mop up time.

5-Goose eggs are always cool.
 
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Smooth Olaf;1545769; said:
God I hate the "True fans" belief. What does it take to be a "True fan?" Do I have to drink the Kool-Aid and believe my team can do no wrong? Am I a False-fan just because I'm discouraged with my team's power running game?

As for your question, hopefully neither. Coaches, at least the good ones, don't call their plays based off how the audience will react. The booing didn't hurt, it didn't help, it just showed the fans' displeasure. Should the fans have cheered? Should they have given the proverbial, "Awww...that's okay. You're trying. Here's your participation trophy," kind of response? The result of the play warranted boos, just as the result of almost every other play warranted cheers.

I guess what bothers me is when people criticize fans for booing.
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I agree somewhat,but not a fully what. I've seen a lot of nitpicking lately from people for questioning anything about the program. There is nothing in the world that is as perfect as it might seem. All coaches make mistakes,regardless of what is believed. People can choose to acknowledge that or not,that's up to the individual fan. Some people have committed mass suicides just from their own beliefs(hopefully a bigger issue then football).

Pryor looked good. I think this is a positive formula into building a better TP. Toledo's pass coverage was horrendous,but it allowed us to see TP to work on his game,and that's the primary focus here. Like some people on here...I want to see him run,when it's there. He is a blur,and very few people have a chance at catching him...Let alone tackling him. If this is part of a bigger plan in making TP an NFL qb,then so be it,but he's too good on his feet not to optimize it. The way he moves in and out of the pocket should create a mess for any defense.

Defense was lights out..Can't ask much more then a shutout. I know the guys were getting to the qb,but I have to add that I haven't see a qb that scared in a long time..That's a positive feeling
 
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Smooth Olaf;1545769; said:
God I hate the "True fans" belief. What does it take to be a "True fan?" Do I have to drink the Kool-Aid and believe my team can do no wrong? Am I a False-fan just because I'm discouraged with my team's power running game?
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Nothing like a little hyperbole to cover the holes in your argument.

Smooth Olaf;1545769; said:
As for your question, hopefully neither. Coaches, at least the good ones, don't call their plays based off how the audience will react. The booing didn't hurt, it didn't help, it just showed the fans' displeasure.
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If the fans' reactions don't matter, then why go to the games at all? Especially if you don't like the product on the field? Just asking....

Smooth Olaf;1545769; said:
Should the fans have cheered? Should they have given the proverbial, "Awww...that's okay. You're trying. Here's your participation trophy," kind of response?
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More hyperbole....

Smooth Olaf;1545769; said:
The result of the play warranted boos, just as the result of almost every other play warranted cheers.
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So, if the play would have worked, then you would have cheered? I doubt it. You would've probably bitched about the call and then chalked up the result to playing a crappy defense - "Sure that stupid play works against a scrub MAC team like Toledo, but no way that works against Penn State."

Smooth Olaf;1545769; said:
I guess what bothers me is when people criticize fans for booing.
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So, it's okay for the fans to boo the team, but not okay for the fans to boo other fans? Okay....
 
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