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It's safe to say his days as a Bengal are over. And likely his NFL career as well.
Lewis expects Thurman gone for year
By GEOFF HOBSON
September 25, 2006
Posted: 3:30 p.m.
Thurman
Expressing disappointment at the club's off-field issues, Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said Monday he expects Odell Thurman to be suspended by the NFL for the rest of the season.
Thurman, already under a four-game suspension for drug problems, was arrested early Monday for driving while impaired.
Lewis wasted no time taking away Thurman's locker, and replacing him with guard Kyle Takavitz.
Lewis also said that center Rich Braham (knee) will be out some games beyond the Oct. 8 bye, and that safety Dexter Jackson (ankle) has a chance to return to play against his old mates in Tampa Bay Oct. 15. Also out for the Patriots game this Sunday is wide receiver Tab Perry (hip), but Lewis hopes to have a better handle on his situation after the bye.
Lewis also had encouraging news on running back Chris Perry (ankle), eligible to return to practice after the Tampa game. Lewis said it looks like Perry won't need to be shelved long before he gets into a game.
"It's disappointing for me, it's disappointing for our program, all of our fans," Lewis said of Thurman. "He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and the right to play in the National Football League. He will be dealt with very severely."
According to Fox 19, Thurman, 23, failed a breathalyzer at a checkpoint on Kellogg Avenue in Cincinnati and had a "high-tier" reading that is described as at least .17, or twice the legal limit..
Since Thurman is currently under a four-game suspension, he is in stage two of the substance abuse program, according to the league's policy. It's not known what the requirements of his treatment program are but any violation moves him to stage three and eligible for a one-year suspension that Lewis referenced.
But since there has been only an arrest and not a decision by a court, any resolution may have to wait. But Lewis made it clear he's moving on beyond Thurman. At least for this season
"No," when asked if he had talked to Thurman or planned to talk to him.
Lewis expects Thurman gone for year
By GEOFF HOBSON
September 25, 2006
Posted: 3:30 p.m.
Thurman
Expressing disappointment at the club's off-field issues, Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said Monday he expects Odell Thurman to be suspended by the NFL for the rest of the season.
Thurman, already under a four-game suspension for drug problems, was arrested early Monday for driving while impaired.
Lewis wasted no time taking away Thurman's locker, and replacing him with guard Kyle Takavitz.
Lewis also said that center Rich Braham (knee) will be out some games beyond the Oct. 8 bye, and that safety Dexter Jackson (ankle) has a chance to return to play against his old mates in Tampa Bay Oct. 15. Also out for the Patriots game this Sunday is wide receiver Tab Perry (hip), but Lewis hopes to have a better handle on his situation after the bye.
Lewis also had encouraging news on running back Chris Perry (ankle), eligible to return to practice after the Tampa game. Lewis said it looks like Perry won't need to be shelved long before he gets into a game.
"It's disappointing for me, it's disappointing for our program, all of our fans," Lewis said of Thurman. "He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and the right to play in the National Football League. He will be dealt with very severely."
According to Fox 19, Thurman, 23, failed a breathalyzer at a checkpoint on Kellogg Avenue in Cincinnati and had a "high-tier" reading that is described as at least .17, or twice the legal limit..
Since Thurman is currently under a four-game suspension, he is in stage two of the substance abuse program, according to the league's policy. It's not known what the requirements of his treatment program are but any violation moves him to stage three and eligible for a one-year suspension that Lewis referenced.
But since there has been only an arrest and not a decision by a court, any resolution may have to wait. But Lewis made it clear he's moving on beyond Thurman. At least for this season
"No," when asked if he had talked to Thurman or planned to talk to him.
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Arrest could end Thurman's season
Already suspended 4 games by the NFL, the Bengals LB faces drunk driving charge.
By Mark Gokavi
Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 26, 2006
CINCINNATI ? Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said it would "surprise" him if linebacker Odell Thurman wasn't suspended for the entire NFL season.
Thurman, a second-year player from the University of Georgia, was stopped at 3:05 a.m. Monday and charged with OVI (operating a vehicle while intoxicated) on Kellogg Avenue while driving rookie receiver Reggie McNeal's 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe. Thurman was pulled over for driving left of a double-yellow line.
A police video shows Thurman, 23, saying he had a "couple beers" before trying some field sobriety tests. A police report recorded Thurman's Breathalyzer blood-alcohol reading at .18 ? more than twice Ohio's .08 legal limit.
"He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and the right to play in the National Football League," Lewis said Monday. "This will probably be dealt with very severely."
Already serving a four-game suspension for his second violation of the league's substance-abuse policy, Thurman could face a calendar-year NFL banishment for a third infraction. NFL spokesman Steve Alic said the league has no set timetable regarding Thurman's case.
"It's socially and morally not right to be ? supposedly, if by the test, that is true that you are intoxicated behind the wheel ? it's not correct," Lewis said. "I think that's a bad message. These guys all have the ability to know how to do the right thing and call a cab or do whatever it takes."
Hours after the Bengals improved to 3-0 with a 28-20 win in Pittsburgh, Thurman was stopped after avoiding a checkpoint. On the video, Thurman said McNeal and receiver Chris Henry were in the vehicle.
"I was driving because they was ... they had more than I did," Thurman said on the videotape.
Thurman is scheduled to appear in Hamilton County Court at 10:30 a.m. Monday, the day he was to be reinstated.
Thurman is the sixth Bengal arrested in the past year, joining guard Eric Steinbach (operating a boat under the influence), linebacker A.J. Nicholson (burglary, theft, vandalism), since-waived defensive tackle Matthias Askew (acquitted of resisting arrest), defensive end Frostee Rucker (vandalism, spousal battery) and Henry (driving under the influence, providing alcohol to minors, carrying a concealed weapon).
Thurman, who had many off-field incidents in college, led the Bengals with 148 tackles as a rookie.
In a recent interview with ESPN.com, Thurman said he missed, not failed, a drug test. He also was quoted saying: "If this is the edge right here, then I got one foot over the edge. I got one whole leg over the edge, and the fall would be ... I can't even see the ground. A one-year (suspension) for me, if I were to make that mistake, it would be like committing suicide."
Arrest could end Thurman's season
Already suspended 4 games by the NFL, the Bengals LB faces drunk driving charge.
By Mark Gokavi
Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 26, 2006
CINCINNATI ? Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said it would "surprise" him if linebacker Odell Thurman wasn't suspended for the entire NFL season.
Thurman, a second-year player from the University of Georgia, was stopped at 3:05 a.m. Monday and charged with OVI (operating a vehicle while intoxicated) on Kellogg Avenue while driving rookie receiver Reggie McNeal's 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe. Thurman was pulled over for driving left of a double-yellow line.
A police video shows Thurman, 23, saying he had a "couple beers" before trying some field sobriety tests. A police report recorded Thurman's Breathalyzer blood-alcohol reading at .18 ? more than twice Ohio's .08 legal limit.
"He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and the right to play in the National Football League," Lewis said Monday. "This will probably be dealt with very severely."
Already serving a four-game suspension for his second violation of the league's substance-abuse policy, Thurman could face a calendar-year NFL banishment for a third infraction. NFL spokesman Steve Alic said the league has no set timetable regarding Thurman's case.
"It's socially and morally not right to be ? supposedly, if by the test, that is true that you are intoxicated behind the wheel ? it's not correct," Lewis said. "I think that's a bad message. These guys all have the ability to know how to do the right thing and call a cab or do whatever it takes."
Hours after the Bengals improved to 3-0 with a 28-20 win in Pittsburgh, Thurman was stopped after avoiding a checkpoint. On the video, Thurman said McNeal and receiver Chris Henry were in the vehicle.
"I was driving because they was ... they had more than I did," Thurman said on the videotape.
Thurman is scheduled to appear in Hamilton County Court at 10:30 a.m. Monday, the day he was to be reinstated.
Thurman is the sixth Bengal arrested in the past year, joining guard Eric Steinbach (operating a boat under the influence), linebacker A.J. Nicholson (burglary, theft, vandalism), since-waived defensive tackle Matthias Askew (acquitted of resisting arrest), defensive end Frostee Rucker (vandalism, spousal battery) and Henry (driving under the influence, providing alcohol to minors, carrying a concealed weapon).
Thurman, who had many off-field incidents in college, led the Bengals with 148 tackles as a rookie.
In a recent interview with ESPN.com, Thurman said he missed, not failed, a drug test. He also was quoted saying: "If this is the edge right here, then I got one foot over the edge. I got one whole leg over the edge, and the fall would be ... I can't even see the ground. A one-year (suspension) for me, if I were to make that mistake, it would be like committing suicide."
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Lewis on Thurman: Not pleased
Arrest likely to bring a year's suspension
BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Odell Thurman and Chris Henry, two Bengals players whose on-field heroics have been surpassed by their off-field problems, were in the spotlight once again for the wrong reasons Monday - less than 12 hours after the team's stunning comeback victory against the rival Steelers in Pittsburgh.
Thurman, who was driving an SUV in which teammates Henry and Reggie McNeal were passengers, was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated after failing a field sobriety test at a checkpoint on Kellogg Avenue in the East End.
Already serving a four-game suspension for a second violation of the NFL substance abuse policy, Thurman now likely faces a yearlong suspension for a third strike, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said Monday.
"I am not pleased. It's not right; it's not what we stand for," Lewis said "It's not what the National Football League should represent. We've brought the young people back here to be Bengal fans, and I want it to be for the right reasons."
Henry was not cited, but Thurman told a Cincinnati police officer that Henry and McNeal - the owner of the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe driven by Thurman - had both consumed more alcohol than he. Henry, who a witness said vomited on the side of the vehicle, appeared to be on his way toward overcoming a series of four arrests in seven months and establishing himself as a key player. He had 69 yards on five receptions, two for touchdowns, at Pittsburgh.
At his weekly news conference on Monday, Lewis, whose Bengals are 3-0 and tied for first place in the AFC North, had harsh words for Thurman but was less explicit about Henry, who is on probation for two years after pleading guilty to a concealed weapons charge in Orlando, Fla.
"I think for Odell it's disappointing, for me, it's disappointing for our program, for all of our fans," Lewis said of Thurman, whose breath test measured 0.17, more than twice the legal limit in Ohio. "He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and the right to play in the National Football League. This will probably be dealt with very severely ... by the league."
When asked about Henry and McNeal's presence in the car, Lewis was less direct.
"I think again that it's probably bad timing," he said.
A third violation of the league substance abuse policy, on top of Thurman's current four-game suspension for a second offense, is punishable by the minimum of a one-year banishment from the league.
Thurman, under terms of his four-game suspension, is not allowed in the stadium on game day. He was not in Pittsburgh but hooked up with Henry and McNeal after their charter flight returned Sunday night. McNeal, like Henry, was not cited.
The players spent time Annie's nightclub, 4343 Kellogg Ave., East End, a source said.
Cincinnati police and the Ohio State Patrol set up a sobriety checkpoint overnight on Kellogg Avenue.
Thurman was stopped by the Cincinnati police officer at 3800 Kellogg Ave., away from the checkpoint, after his vehicle was observed weaving and crossing to the left side of a double yellow line.
A police videotape shows an officer asking Thurman to step out of the car and asking him how much he had to drink. "I had a couple of beers," Thurman said. Thurman said he was driving because his companions "had more than I did."
The officer gave Thurman a field sobriety test and put him in the back of the police cruiser. He was brought to the checkpoint and submitted to a breath test.
Thurman blew a 0.17, which is considered a high-tier reading, said Officer Stephen Lawson of the Cincinnati Police Traffic Section. Thurman was released to a sober driver, Lawson said. Thurman, 23, was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated. He is to appear Monday in Hamilton County DUI Court.
Lewis indicated Monday that Thurman would not play this season for the Bengals. Thurman's agent, Safara Lawson, did not return a call seeking comment. Lewis said he did not speak to Thurman on Monday, and did not plan to in the immediate future.
Lewis took a strong stand against drinking and driving on Monday.
"It's not correct," he said. "It's not right for our society and I think that's a bad message. These guys all have the ability to do the right thing and call a cab or do whatever it takes.
Lewis on Thurman: Not pleased
Arrest likely to bring a year's suspension
BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Odell Thurman and Chris Henry, two Bengals players whose on-field heroics have been surpassed by their off-field problems, were in the spotlight once again for the wrong reasons Monday - less than 12 hours after the team's stunning comeback victory against the rival Steelers in Pittsburgh.
Thurman, who was driving an SUV in which teammates Henry and Reggie McNeal were passengers, was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated after failing a field sobriety test at a checkpoint on Kellogg Avenue in the East End.
Already serving a four-game suspension for a second violation of the NFL substance abuse policy, Thurman now likely faces a yearlong suspension for a third strike, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said Monday.
"I am not pleased. It's not right; it's not what we stand for," Lewis said "It's not what the National Football League should represent. We've brought the young people back here to be Bengal fans, and I want it to be for the right reasons."
Henry was not cited, but Thurman told a Cincinnati police officer that Henry and McNeal - the owner of the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe driven by Thurman - had both consumed more alcohol than he. Henry, who a witness said vomited on the side of the vehicle, appeared to be on his way toward overcoming a series of four arrests in seven months and establishing himself as a key player. He had 69 yards on five receptions, two for touchdowns, at Pittsburgh.
At his weekly news conference on Monday, Lewis, whose Bengals are 3-0 and tied for first place in the AFC North, had harsh words for Thurman but was less explicit about Henry, who is on probation for two years after pleading guilty to a concealed weapons charge in Orlando, Fla.
"I think for Odell it's disappointing, for me, it's disappointing for our program, for all of our fans," Lewis said of Thurman, whose breath test measured 0.17, more than twice the legal limit in Ohio. "He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and the right to play in the National Football League. This will probably be dealt with very severely ... by the league."
When asked about Henry and McNeal's presence in the car, Lewis was less direct.
"I think again that it's probably bad timing," he said.
A third violation of the league substance abuse policy, on top of Thurman's current four-game suspension for a second offense, is punishable by the minimum of a one-year banishment from the league.
Thurman, under terms of his four-game suspension, is not allowed in the stadium on game day. He was not in Pittsburgh but hooked up with Henry and McNeal after their charter flight returned Sunday night. McNeal, like Henry, was not cited.
The players spent time Annie's nightclub, 4343 Kellogg Ave., East End, a source said.
Cincinnati police and the Ohio State Patrol set up a sobriety checkpoint overnight on Kellogg Avenue.
Thurman was stopped by the Cincinnati police officer at 3800 Kellogg Ave., away from the checkpoint, after his vehicle was observed weaving and crossing to the left side of a double yellow line.
A police videotape shows an officer asking Thurman to step out of the car and asking him how much he had to drink. "I had a couple of beers," Thurman said. Thurman said he was driving because his companions "had more than I did."
The officer gave Thurman a field sobriety test and put him in the back of the police cruiser. He was brought to the checkpoint and submitted to a breath test.
Thurman blew a 0.17, which is considered a high-tier reading, said Officer Stephen Lawson of the Cincinnati Police Traffic Section. Thurman was released to a sober driver, Lawson said. Thurman, 23, was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated. He is to appear Monday in Hamilton County DUI Court.
Lewis indicated Monday that Thurman would not play this season for the Bengals. Thurman's agent, Safara Lawson, did not return a call seeking comment. Lewis said he did not speak to Thurman on Monday, and did not plan to in the immediate future.
Lewis took a strong stand against drinking and driving on Monday.
"It's not correct," he said. "It's not right for our society and I think that's a bad message. These guys all have the ability to do the right thing and call a cab or do whatever it takes.
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sandgk;618830; said:
Can't speak on the whole team but I'm pretty sure Odell and Chris Henry can't read.
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Buckin' A
Veritas Aequitas
The problem is bigger than Lewis and the Bengals. No matter how harsh Lewis is on him, it won't make a shit bit of difference. Because even if he gets booted of the team, there will be 31 other teams waiting in line to give him a big contract and sign him up.
It's all about winning games and to say anything different is flat wrong. There aren't too many players anymore who repsect the game for much more than a pay check. That is an NFL problem, not just a Marvin Lewis problem.
Wait, I'm a Browns fan...shouldn't I be rubbing it in and making some childish comment?
It's all about winning games and to say anything different is flat wrong. There aren't too many players anymore who repsect the game for much more than a pay check. That is an NFL problem, not just a Marvin Lewis problem.
Wait, I'm a Browns fan...shouldn't I be rubbing it in and making some childish comment?
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Bucknut319;618863; said:
That's the thing. Lewis wouldn't choose to suspend him. He's being suspended by the NFL. Chris Henry's been arrested four times, and apparently just recently drank til he puked (which is probably a violation of his probation I might add). Yet you can expect to see him play every Sunday this year until some judge has the balls to throw him in jail.
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OhioState49
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Odell would have been a great impact this year too. This could very well be the Bengals best year for quite a long time. And now this? There have been too many incidents with the Bengals in the past year!
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OhioState49
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Also shows how good of a friend he is to Henry and the other guy. Ratten them out like that!
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