OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (Official Thread)

[generaladm]

I don't know but that's how he got most of his catches last year. Troy, MSU, scUM, NU, YSU. But, he also showed a lot of ability as a possession receiver in '07. I think he showed off some nice versatility here.

Good point, but how many of those teams had secondaries to cover multiple WRs? Hartline did not have a good year, compared to 07, and even 06. But, he won't be in the same situation in the pros. The last two years, he was expected to be a co-#1 with a guy who was a little more suited for a #1, but not a true #1. Add to the mix that he worked with three very different QBs in three years. In 06, even though he was very green, he was a sometimes third option, playing behind two first round WRs. 07 he was a #2, with a QB who was more apt at the deep ball (against a relatively soft sched). The role he will fill in the NFL is probably closest to his 06 season. He'll likely be matched up on a safety or NB, and running short to intermediate routes, not expected to be a field stretcher. Despite his lackluster 08 season, I think he can be successful in the NFL, if he goes to a team with a QB who can check down and make a variety of throws. If he goes to a team with a decent QB, I think he could be a player that would be considered a draft day steal a couple years down the road.

 

[Buckskin86]

-- Brian Hartline's numbers so far line up pretty close to what he projects to be in the NFL: A slot receiver, shifty, quick more than fast, able to make moves in tight quarters. His 40 time wasn't blazing (4.52), but he turned in top-5 times in the 3-cone shuttle, 20-yard shuttle and 60-yard shuttle drills, all of which measure explosion and ability to change directions quickly.

Hartline on the subject of playing the slot in the NFL:

"I think that?s probably a main asset if they're going to draft me, I'm thinking. You're definitely going to want a guy that can probably play both (inside and outside), and a guy that can definitely fill a spot in the slot. There's probably not a ton of slot receivers that you can think of off the top of your head that have done a great job or are known for that, so I'm sure there's probably some desire out there for a certain guy."

Blogging the Buckeyes

 

[RugbyBuck]

Hopefully, teams will also see his value as a special teams demon. He will flat "knock your dick in the dirt", to quote many an old football coach.

 

[Buckskin86]

INDIANAPOLIS: Brian Hartline's somewhat puzzling decision to leave Ohio State after his junior season came down to a matter of passion.

The wide receiver from GlenOak High confounded many analysts when he declared for the NFL Draft. Before the Scouting Combine, which runs through today at Lucas Oil Stadium, ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. projected Hartline as a fifth- or sixth-round pick. OSU coach Jim Tressel usually tells his players to come out early only if they'll be selected in the first round.

Hartline is not the only Buckeye who falls into this year's ''What were they thinking?'' category. Junior cornerback Donald Washington also fits that description. But since Hartline's numbers dropped dramatically when freshman Terrelle Pryor replaced senior Todd Boeckman at quarterback this season, the perception was that Hartline thought that he had no chemistry with Pryor, whose techniques as a passer need work.

''There was more eagerness or passion to go after that next step than wait for the following year,'' Hartline said Friday at the combine. ''I knew either way I'd be fine. I was talking to a lot of people, coach (Darrell) Hazell in particular. It just felt right. It was the natural next step. I really like the challenge to move on.''

That challenge began Sunday, when Hartline participated in position drills at the combine. He was probably disappointed with his 4.52 clocking in the 40-yard dash, an unofficial time shown on the NFL Network. Fellow OSU receiver Brian Robiskie went the distance in 4.49.

Hartline had a great day in the other drills. His time of 10.92 seconds in the 60-yard shuttle was first among receivers, and he tied for second in the three-cone drill (6.65) and was fourth in the 20-yard shuttle (4.12).

''This combine is probably going to carry a little more weight for me and Brian, maybe more on my side,'' Hartline said. Asked what he wanted to show, Hartline said, ''Overall athletic ability and running. Running's always that question mark. If you can run, it says a lot.''

Hartline will get a chance to better his time at Ohio State's pro day March 13.

Ohio.com - Hartline hoping to catch attention of NFL scouts

 

[Buckskin86]

Pro day: The "real" times
OK, we've got a pretty good handle on the 40 times from pro day today. The times I'm going to list here are a range, where most of the 29 teams had the players....it doesn't mean some teams didn't have a guy a few ticks faster (or slower), but these are the best, most reliable ranges we can give you:

BRIAN HARTLINE: 4.5 to 4.53, again, about what he did at Indy.

Pro day: The "real" times (Blogging the Buckeyes)

 

[Buckskin86]

HARTLINE HELPS HIMSELF

GlenOak is the only school in the county with alumni actively playing in the NBA and NFL, and the school will add another to the NFL next month. Former Ohio State receiver Brian Hartline raised some eyebrows when he decided to leave a year early for the NFL Draft.

Well, Hartline appears to have helped himself during the NFL Combine and Ohio State?s pro day Friday. Hartline is projected as a sixth-round draft pick by NFLDraftscout.com. Other sites have him as a fifth-rounder. Early on, some said he would be a free-agent signee.

?I?m happy with my decision,? Hartline said. ?The Combine really helped from being able to compare myself to others guys and where I stand. That put my mind at ease.

?At this point, I?m not really nervous. I?m more interested to see where I?ll end up. The question was, at first, will I even get drafted. That?s taken care of, I think. Now it?s where will I get drafted? The higher the better, obviously. Regardless, there?s only a handful of us to be given this opportunity.?

Hartline ran a 4.51 40-yard dash at the Combine. It wasn?t blazing, but it?s a number he improved on at OSU?s pro day. He?s 6-foot-2, 195 pounds, so he?s added some bulk to his frame.

His reasoning for turning pro early had nothing to do with football. He will graduate this spring from Ohio State. He?s getting married May 23. He said he?s ready to begin the next phase of his life.

OSU?s offensive philosophy change hurt Hartline?s production. Still, there have been some scouting services that suggested Hartline could have transferred from Ohio State and helped himself.

Hogwash. Hartline would have had to play somewhere other than Division I, and who?s gonna draft him then?

DRAFT DAY PLANS

Hartline isn?t sure how he will spend the two days of the NFL Draft, but he likely isn?t watching the entire first day.

?I?m going to be a second-day pick,? he said. ?I?m getting a good feeling about that. I hate saying that, though, because you never know.

?I?ll be more interested to see where some other guys go, guys I played with at Ohio State and guys I know from other schools. And I?ll watch to see which receivers go where and try to project. But as far as myself, whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen.?

Hartline said he?ll probably play Madden on Xbox Live or just leave the house.

?My parents have a little cottage down on the lake I might get away to,? he said.

What is he more nervous about: The draft or pending nuptials?

?Oh, by far the draft,? he said.

SHOWING INTEREST

Some of the teams that have contacted Hartline?s agent Neil Cornrich to conduct further one-on-one testing are Jacksonville, Denver, Miami and Chicago.

?Neil is telling me the private workouts are close to being booked,? Hartline said.

Sunday Special: GlenOak is on the Division I football radar - Canton, OH - CantonRep.com

 

[Buckskin86]

Peter King > MONDAY MORNING QB

8. I think, after the Ohio State Pro Day Friday, I've got one name for you to remember for the end of round two or the guts of round three: Brian Hartline. Receiver. Played in the shadow of Ted Ginn Jr., then Brian Robiskie, in Columbus. Caught just 21 balls last fall while Ohio State struggled adjusting to Terrelle Pryor running the offense.

Hartline had a great combine, can play the slot and outside, and impressed with his hands and route-running on Friday; his 4.50 40- time is OK, but not special. (Teammate Robiskie ran a 4.47.) Two months ago, Hartline was a fifth-round pick. Now he just might go in the top 64.

Jay Cutler's time with Denver Broncos nearing end - Peter King - SI.com

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Two months ago, Hartline was a fifth-round pick. Now he just might go in the top 64.

I'd all but bet my house that he won't...

 

[Viking]

I'd all but bet my house that he won't...

I'd bet my house and my parents' house and my kids' (if I had any) college savings he wouldn't. He's not a bad prospect, but there's typically 10 or so receivers in the first day. Hartline is ranked 38th according to NFL Draft Countdown, 42nd according to Walter Football, and 32nd according to Mocking the Draft. To give an idea, the 35 receivers taken last year was an all-time high. He's got good qualities, but coming out after an okay junior year with a fair bit of talent at the top didn't exactly do him any favors.

 

[Bleed S & G]

I'd bet my house and my parents' house and my kids' (if I had any) college savings he wouldn't.

What a stupid thing to type into a computer and post on the intrawebs.

He's got good qualities, but coming out after an okay junior year with a fair bit of talent at the top didn't exactly do him any favors.

He came out for 1 of 2 reasons, IMO:

1.) He & staff and/or players didn't get along (rumors of this);
2.) He felt that next year, TP's offense wouldn't be distrubting the ball to the recievers as much.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

I'd all but bet my house that he won't...

I'd bet my house and my parents' house and my kids' (if I had any) college savings he wouldn't. He's not a bad prospect, but there's typically 10 or so receivers in the first day. Hartline is ranked 38th according to NFL Draft Countdown, 42nd according to Walter Football, and 32nd according to Mocking the Draft. To give an idea, the 35 receivers taken last year was an all-time high. He's got good qualities, but coming out after an okay junior year with a fair bit of talent at the top didn't exactly do him any favors.

how much vcash do you want to beat against your houses?
(or are you both about to lose your house to foreclosure and you want to pawn off the debt onto a sucker?)

 

[BB73]

What a stupid thing to type into a computer and post on the intrawebs.


He came out for 1 of 2 reasons, IMO:

1.) He & staff and/or players didn't get along (rumors of this);
2.) He felt that next year, TP's offense wouldn't be distrubting the ball to the recievers as much.

There's that, but he's actually going to graduate soon, so he's ready to pursue his career, which he hopes will be playing pro football for a few years.

When a 4-year athlete has a college degree, and simply chooses to not exercise the 5th year of college competition that he would be allowed because of a redshirt year; I'd like to see it called something besides 'coming out early', but that's the label used by the media types (who usually have no idea if a guy is going to graduate or not before going to the NFL).

And yes, next month there will be a vBet for which round Brian Hartline gets selected. As well as several others for those in the draft.

 

[Viking]

What a stupid thing to type into a computer and post on the intrawebs.


He came out for 1 of 2 reasons, IMO:

1.) He & staff and/or players didn't get along (rumors of this);
2.) He felt that next year, TP's offense wouldn't be distrubting the ball to the recievers as much.

I'm not saying he didn't have his reasons or that he could have improved his stock by coming back, I'm just saying what is.

 

[jwinslow]

I'd bet my house and my parents' house and my kids' (if I had any) college savings he wouldn't. He's not a bad prospect, but there's typically 10 or so receivers in the first day. Hartline is ranked 38th according to NFL Draft Countdown, 42nd according to Walter Football, and 32nd according to Mocking the Draft. To give an idea, the 35 receivers taken last year was an all-time high. He's got good qualities, but coming out after an okay junior year with a fair bit of talent at the top didn't exactly do him any favors.

So you're betting a tall, athletic WR who can contribute on special teams goes undrafted? I think that would be unexpected. I've seen primarily 6-7 projections, with a few mid-round predictions.

He'd be an asset to your team for that kind of money.

 

[Viking]

So you're betting a tall, athletic WR who can contribute on special teams goes undrafted? I think that would be unexpected. I've seen primarily 6-7 projections, with a few mid-round predictions.

He'd be an asset to your team for that kind of money.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said he would go undrafted; I said he wouldn't go in the first two rounds. He's got a good shot at being drafted late because of those things you said, but he is not a first day pick.