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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
What do OSU fans lament with a Ryan Day offense? The run game. When OSU has been strongest, is when the run game has been complimentary to the pass. From some of the pundits are saying, Smith will be very strong in assisting with the run game, to assist the pass. This will also help the offensive line to be better.
We loved Chip, and also Wilson, so I think this hire may be better than the detractors think.
We loved Chip, and also Wilson, so I think this hire may be better than the detractors think.
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Wells4Heisman
Fifth Year Freshman
I'll trust the process but if this goes wrong it would kill the receiver pipeline.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
I plucked a few posts from the Matt Patricia thread:
Just sayin': I know some may disagree) however, I do think that Arthur Smith has proven to be a very competent OC at the NFL level. He also needs to be the right "culture fit". The questions are: Can he adapt his coaching style to fit the college game? Can he come off as "genuine" and get the college players to "buy in" on what he is coaching/teaching? Does he teach in an effective manner so every player thoroughly understand where he fits into the overall scheme? Does he genuinely value the personnel relationships with the players? If the answer is "yes' to these questions; I believe he will be a very successful coordinator at Ohio State too.
Just sayin': I know some may disagree) however, I do think that Arthur Smith has proven to be a very competent OC at the NFL level. He also needs to be the right "culture fit". The questions are: Can he adapt his coaching style to fit the college game? Can he come off as "genuine" and get the college players to "buy in" on what he is coaching/teaching? Does he teach in an effective manner so every player thoroughly understand where he fits into the overall scheme? Does he genuinely value the personnel relationships with the players? If the answer is "yes' to these questions; I believe he will be a very successful coordinator at Ohio State too.
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knuckifyoubuck
Heisman
Maybe we can become NFL coach rehab, similiar to Saban for college coaches.
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If one more person brings up Matt Patricia I'm going to.....well..... continue to post more negative shit about Arthur Smith here.
1. This isn't the same thing. The complaints about Patricia were about his demeanor, his extensive time away from the college game, his ties to a Patriots system that hasn't produced a single thing outside of NE. These are anecdotal. The complaint about Arthur Smith is that he sucks at his job. That's it.
2. Go raid the Tim Beck thread and read all the wait and see, trust the coaches hopium. Just because people were wrong about Patricia, that doesn't mean every hire that comes with a group of negative Nancys will end up like the Patricia one. What if they hire the Browns homeless guy who wanted Manziel? Everyone gonna say "But it worked for Patricia durr durr durr"?
1. This isn't the same thing. The complaints about Patricia were about his demeanor, his extensive time away from the college game, his ties to a Patriots system that hasn't produced a single thing outside of NE. These are anecdotal. The complaint about Arthur Smith is that he sucks at his job. That's it.
2. Go raid the Tim Beck thread and read all the wait and see, trust the coaches hopium. Just because people were wrong about Patricia, that doesn't mean every hire that comes with a group of negative Nancys will end up like the Patricia one. What if they hire the Browns homeless guy who wanted Manziel? Everyone gonna say "But it worked for Patricia durr durr durr"?
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. He's definitively proven the exact opposite.
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bigdog3300
The G.O.A.T.
His 2 stints as an OC...
1) Had people thinking the Titans might make the Super Bowl led by Tannehill, and then in 2020 they had the second most yards in the NFL. There is no way to spin this other than a massive success, and it's also not fair to ignore this.
2) The Steelers offense improved statistically, while not having much to work with....I'm not putting too much, good or bad, into 2025 due to Aaron Rodgers having a massive impact on that offense and their decisions.
It's not apples to apples, so I don't pull a ton from the Falcons, but the fact he got Desmond Ridder to go 7-10 in back to back years is also pretty damn impressive. The best QB he's had to work with was Tannehill and he made him look great...outside of that he had Mariota, Ridder, Fields, Wilson, and an ancient Aaron Rodgers.
I get Steelers fan most likely hated him and the entire staff, but Smith has a fantastic reputation inside the league.
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I just hope the offense delivers.Gotta get FedEx on board with being OSU's first (other than Nike) corporate sponsor jersey patch
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
It's hard to believe a National Championship-winning Head Coach of a college football team that wants to attract players who dream of playing in the NFL would dare to higher former successful coordinators at the NFL level and now make them the Head Coaches of their respective sides of the ball at the collegiate level.
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
As has been said a million times already (sorry if it’s been said here), Chip Kelly went from a national championship caliber college OC to the worst OC in the NFL who got fired halfway through a season.
People recognize how drastically more difficult coordinating in the NFL is compared to college, right?
It seems impossible to me that this won’t be a significant improvement over Hartline in terms of weekly prep and game day calls, regardless of Smith’s performance last season in the NFL.
People recognize how drastically more difficult coordinating in the NFL is compared to college, right?
It seems impossible to me that this won’t be a significant improvement over Hartline in terms of weekly prep and game day calls, regardless of Smith’s performance last season in the NFL.
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Captain Buckeye
Assistant Coach
This is where I’m at. The man led some very good offenses in the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE and he really never had an elite QB. Every week it’s a battle in the NFL and if you don’t bring it you’ll lose.
That’s why NFL guys going to college works more than college to Pro. Guys like Patricia, Hafley, Day, Pete Carrol, and even Saban. It’s because all they’ve done for decades is perfect their craft and now they land at a place with superior talent compared to who they’re playing? Automatic.
I don’t pretend to know much about Smith but I know statistically he’s had some elite offenses in the most difficult arena of football.
I’m not positive or negative about the hire but as someone pointed out if he wasn’t very good at his job don’t you think Vrable and Patricia would said something? You know Ryan Day asked both for their opinions.
I think it’ll work out and this time next year we’ll be holding our breath hoping he doesn’t bail to the NFL.
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Captain Buckeye
Assistant Coach
Returning 8 starters on offense and having a far superior OC is a recipe for success. I love Hartline as a WR coach but there were likely better OCs on the damn staff last year let alone in the NFL.
We would’ve improved regardless due to the seniority coming back. Add in a competent OC and let’s see where this takes us. Sure as shit probably gets us scoring more than 14 points vs good defenses.
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