OBSERVATIONS FROM C DECK - MIAMI

[CalvinistBuck]

Calvinist, I thought the same thing for a couple seconds; but then I realized that Oh8ch's blanket statement that fans should never question the coaches, followed in his next point by a comment that the fans want Berry, and 'pay your salary coach' was just a setup.

Perhaps it was a setup...and, perhaps, I'm simply the last one to catch a joke. It's just that I tire of the lame generaliztion to never, ever question the coaches.

 

[Tlangs]

I'm simply the last one to catch a joke.

This

 

[CalvinistBuck]

This

 

[BB73]

Perhaps it was a setup...and, perhaps, I'm simply the last one to catch a joke. It's just that I tire of the lame generaliztion to never, ever question the coaches.

I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, but there are certainly times when questioning their decisions is legitimate. Folks just need to be careful about how that's done on these boards.

I was very disappointed in the clock management at the end of the half. I didn't think the spike was wise after the clock was stopped to move the chains; to me it wasted a down while only saving a handful of seconds, they should have lined up and run a play. Then not calling the timeout after the second down play was an obvious mistake. They had enough time after the first down to have 2 incomplete passes, and a third running play which would require the timeout afterwards, and still be able to kick a FG. A third-year starting QB should be able to avoid any sacks and interceptions on those plays, just throwing the ball through the end zone if nobody's open.

Hopefully there's enough practice using game simulations to avoid another clock management problem before it costs tOSU some points in a close game.

 

[Jaxbuck]

o8ch,

Did the nacho wench turn into one of the many dead hookers we keep in our collective trunks over the off season or are you on a diet? The observations just aren't the same without that little vixen.

 

[CalvinistBuck]

I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, but there are certainly times when questioning their decisions is legitimate. Folks just need to be careful about how that's done on these boards.

Your opinion accurately reflects my sentiment. I simply want to defend constructive critism, general hilarity, and merriment with tasty beer.

I was very disappointed in the clock management at the end of the half. I didn't think the spike was wise after the clock was stopped to move the chains; to me it wasted a down while only saving a handful of seconds, they should have lined up and run a play. Then not calling the timeout after the second down play was an obvious mistake. They had enough time after the first down to have 2 incomplete passes, and a third running play which would require the timeout afterwards, and still be able to kick a FG. A third-year starting QB should be able to avoid any sacks and interceptions on those plays, just throwing the ball through the end zone if nobody's open.

Hopefully there's enough practice using game simulations to avoid another clock management problem before it costs tOSU some points in a close game.

We can be certain that there will be meetings this week discussing this very topic.

 

[smithlabs]

There is no "U" in Miami but there are many I's and a little "a".

 

[buckeyebri]

I was very disappointed in the clock management at the end of the half. I didn't think the spike was wise after the clock was stopped to move the chains; to me it wasted a down while only saving a handful of seconds, they should have lined up and run a play. Then not calling the timeout after the second down play was an obvious mistake. They had enough time after the first down to have 2 incomplete passes, and a third running play which would require the timeout afterwards, and still be able to kick a FG. A third-year starting QB should be able to avoid any sacks and interceptions on those plays, just throwing the ball through the end zone if nobody's open.

Hopefully there's enough practice using game simulations to avoid another clock management problem before it costs tOSU some points in a close game.

I was right there with you on this. In my opinion this one was on the coaches. What about calling two plays in the huddle?

We had some arrogant bitch in our section who started the game by holding up a Miami Hurricanes sign....Funny thing was that it was upside down until someone told her. She almost got thrown out during halftime for stirring up a fight and then was trying to stir one up later under the bleachers. Hello you are at the Shoe honey.....

I thought the pregame jump around at midfield was just hilarious. It was obvious the Canes were looking for the Bucks do their run out to the 50 to see if they could start some trouble....

 

[NateG]

I haven't seen it mentioned... but the first return TD was initially helped by a clip that took out the 2 OSU center line players... They had a bead on the return man and after that only 2 players even got within sniffing room of tackling him... The punt return was terrible coverage and Benjamin took advantage. So you realistically could take another 7 ff their score and add 4 to ours on the first TD run that got called back.

40-17 sounds more like it.

 

[cincibuck]

I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, but there are certainly times when questioning their decisions is legitimate. Folks just need to be careful about how that's done on these boards.

I was very disappointed in the clock management at the end of the half. I didn't think the spike was wise after the clock was stopped to move the chains; to me it wasted a down while only saving a handful of seconds, they should have lined up and run a play. Then not calling the timeout after the second down play was an obvious mistake. They had enough time after the first down to have 2 incomplete passes, and a third running play which would require the timeout afterwards, and still be able to kick a FG. A third-year starting QB should be able to avoid any sacks and interceptions on those plays, just throwing the ball through the end zone if nobody's open.

Hopefully there's enough practice using game simulations to avoid another clock management problem before it costs tOSU some points in a close game.

I don't think clock management has ever been a Jim Tressel strength. I can't come up with a specific example, but it's been something I've observed year after year. Sometimes it's beyond the control of the coach, a receiver or an running back stays in bounds trying for more yards or the QB takes a sack, but IMO it's more a case of Tress not calling the timeout.

 

[cjmik_75]

I haven't seen it mentioned... but the first return TD was initially helped by a clip that took out the 2 OSU center line players... They had a bead on the return man and after that only 2 players even got within sniffing room of tackling him... The punt return was terrible coverage and Benjamin took advantage. So you realistically could take another 7 ff their score and add 4 to ours on the first TD run that got called back.

40-17 sounds more like it.

Also in the special teams thread...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIYIdDgldmE"]YouTube - Block in the back[/ame]

 

[Tlangs]

I don't think clock management has ever been a Jim Tressel strength. I can't come up with a specific example, but it's been something I've observed year after year. Sometimes it's beyond the control of the coach, a receiver or an running back stays in bounds trying for more yards or the QB takes a sack, but IMO it's more a case of Tress not calling the timeout.

The Wisconsin game last year was great clock managment. We took it 60+ yards in under 2 minutes just before half.

This last week was more of a brain fart. There is no reason to not take the time out before 3rd down. I'm ok with the spike on First Down. It's better to take your time and get everyone on the same page then rush a play. I'm even ok with the slant on 2nd down. Posey got inside on the DB and the linebacker came over and made a good tackle (now I would rather have a pass thrown into the end zone so it is a TD or Incomplete but we have seen the slant work before).

 

[UpNorthBuckeye]

Good review, Oh8ch.

I think it was actually J Boren who was quoted as saying Pryor was kind of a punk freshman year. I, too, thought that was great that that kind of stuff was out in the open.

I thought the game was great, warts and all.

 

[BB73]

Good review, Oh8ch.

I think it was actually J Boren who was quoted as saying Pryor was kind of a punk freshman year. I, too, thought that was great that that kind of stuff was out in the open.

I thought the game was great, warts and all.

I'm not sure what Justin Boren has said, but it was a story when Moeller made the quote regarding TP.

Cleveland.com

 

[Dryden]

I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, but there are certainly times when questioning their decisions is legitimate. Folks just need to be careful about how that's done on these boards.

I was very disappointed in the clock management at the end of the half. I didn't think the spike was wise after the clock was stopped to move the chains; to me it wasted a down while only saving a handful of seconds, they should have lined up and run a play. Then not calling the timeout after the second down play was an obvious mistake. They had enough time after the first down to have 2 incomplete passes, and a third running play which would require the timeout afterwards, and still be able to kick a FG. A third-year starting QB should be able to avoid any sacks and interceptions on those plays, just throwing the ball through the end zone if nobody's open.

Hopefully there's enough practice using game simulations to avoid another clock management problem before it costs tOSU some points in a close game.

I see no reason not to have a Pryor roll-out with a run/pass (either to the FB or the TE) option as the defacto play to run in that situation. If it's not there throw it into Block O or run it out of bounds. Hell, run it three times in a row if necessary. Pryor's legs have to be part of the red-zone offense on every play. Opposing defenses will fail to stop it more often than not, even if they know it's coming.