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Dryden

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Jake;1908597; said:
Meanwhile, she'll be outlived by many pack-a-day smokers who never get off the couch. Cancer does not discriminate. :ohwell:
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There has been some research, mostly foreign, that implicates sugar consumption in the rise of cancer (along with obesity, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and a host of other diseases of civilization).

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html

http://freetheanimal.com/2009/02/sugar-feeds-cancer.html

The argument goes that when University of Minnesota researcher Ancel Keys (wrongly) hypothesized in the 1950s that animal fat raised blood serum cholesterol, and elevated serum cholesterol causes heart disease, he set into motion the dietary sea change in America the has a nation gripped in fear of saturated animal fat and cholesterol (two substances that are necessary for our existance). This meant if we weren't eating those things, we had to be getting our calories from something else ... commodity grains. Sucrose and fructose, regardless if they come from sugar, wheat, corn, or soy, promotes insulin production, which contributes to fat accumulation in the liver and eventually metabolic syndrome, not to mention there is a high probabililty that these conditions also foster cancerous cell mutations and encourage tumor growth.

Beginning in 1977, we obediently did as we were told: We gave up our bacon, butter and eggs and replaced it with Special K, margerine and wheat toast, now we're fatter than ever, Type II diabetes is at an all time high, cancer rates are exploding through the roof, and our doctors want to put us all on statins (which not only don't do anything, but have dangerous side effects), cure our IBS, acid reflux, skin rashes, depression, erectile dysfunction, Alzheimer's, and cancer, which were all diseases that were either basically unheard of or exceedingly rare 50 years ago when we all ate bacon and eggs!
 
Dryden;1908672; said:
There has been some research, mostly foreign, that implicates sugar consumption in the rise of cancer (along with obesity, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and a host of other diseases of civilization).

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html

http://freetheanimal.com/2009/02/sugar-feeds-cancer.html

The argument goes that when University of Minnesota researcher Ancel Keys (wrongly) hypothesized in the 1950s that animal fat raised blood serum cholesterol, and elevated serum cholesterol causes heart disease, he set into motion the dietary sea change in America the has a nation gripped in fear of saturated animal fat and cholesterol (two substances that are necessary for our existance). This meant if we weren't eating those things, we had to be getting our calories from something else ... commodity grains. Sucrose and fructose, regardless if they come from sugar, wheat, corn, or soy, promotes insulin production, which contributes to fat accumulation in the liver and eventually metabolic syndrome, not to mention there is a high probabililty that these conditions also foster cancerous cell mutations and encourage tumor growth.

Beginning in 1977, we obediently did as we were told: We gave up our bacon, butter and eggs and replaced it with Special K, margerine and wheat toast, now we're fatter than ever, Type II diabetes is at an all time high, cancer rates are exploding through the roof, and our doctors want to put us all on statins (which not only don't do anything, but have dangerous side effects), cure our IBS, acid reflux, skin rashes, depression, erectile dysfunction, Alzheimer's, and cancer, which were all diseases that were either basically unheard of or exceedingly rare 50 years ago when we all ate bacon and eggs!
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I hear ya. I see the recent trend in soft drinks to "natural" versions, presumably so because they contain "real sugar" being presented as though they're healthier than those with corn sysrup or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is sugar and the human body wasn't meant to metabolize a ton of it.

What do we feed cows and pigs to fatten them up? Lard? Pork fat? No. We feed them grains, and lots of them. The body processes them as sugar and stores the rest as fat. Our bodies work the same way.

Not sure if any of that caused her cancer, though. :wink2:
 
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Jake;1908691; said:
Not sure if any of that caused her cancer, though. :wink2:
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Yeah, I go off on rants about this stuff.

Watching all my immediate family spontaneously die off over the past five or six years has heightened my awareness of nutrition and health, and most acutely made me realize that there are just as many fat, healthy people as there are skinny, sick people.

Even 9-time NYC Marathoners aren't the model of fitness we hold them up to be.
 
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http://m.cnbc.com/id/42784959
Athletes Looking To Meat As Performance Enhancer
CNBC.com | April 27, 2011 | 03:13 PM EDT
On a group of small farms in Monticello, Mo., John Wood is doing his part to revolutionize how meat is marketed. He's specifically pitching his US Wellness Meats, from steaks to ground beef, to athletes.
You see, Wood is part of the minority that raises his cattle on grass, instead of the grain American ranchers have been feeding them since World War II. Because grass is low in starch and high in protein its packed with more nutrients, its higher in Omega-3 fatty acids and an increased amount of CLA, which actually is believed to help reduce body fat and aid in weight management.
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Interesting. I always felt the omega 3 craze was a little out of whack, but this could be a very nice byproduct of that mindset.
 
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Bucknut24;1915105; said:
I remember reading somewhere that bacon, eggs and toast was the healthiest thing you can eat for breakfast
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I remember reading somewhere that a hot fudge sundae and a fifth of Glenlivet was the healthiest thing you can eat for breakfast.


Oh, that's right, I wrote that just before I read it back to myself.
 
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jwinslow;1915101; said:
http://m.cnbc.com/id/42784959

Interesting. I always felt the omega 3 craze was a little out of whack, but this could be a very nice byproduct of that mindset.
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It is out of whack in the sense that popping high dose fish oil caplets along with a multivitamin probably doesn't do much good when one doesn't actually change their diet. Most Americans are estimated at around a 30:1 n6:n3 ratio, when the ideal should be anywhere from 4:1 to 1:1.

People giving themselves big 30x boluses of n3 isn't the solution to the problem. It's far more beneficial to just reduce the n6 intake by cutting out the grain-fed ruminants and processed oils.

US Wellness Meats is a very popular distributor. It's not at all surprising that they mention athletes feel knee and elbow pain subside once switching off the grain fed beef (high n6) and going to grass fed (high n3). The n3:n6 ratio has already been linked to bone density, osteoporosis, arthritis, asthma, and heart disease. It's precisely why the Mediterranean and Asian diets were considered ideal for centuries. Of course, they eat a lot of fresh fish and game meat, and not assembly line cattle that live at CAFOs eating GMO corn, feces, and leftover parts of other animals.
 
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Dryden;1915095; said:
Yeah, I go off on rants about this stuff.

Watching all my immediate family spontaneously die off over the past five or six years has heightened my awareness of nutrition and health, and most acutely made me realize that there are just as many fat, healthy people as there are skinny, sick people.

Even 9-time NYC Marathoners aren't the model of fitness we hold them up to be.
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This. My exact reason for getting healthier. Went from 290 lbs in December of '09 to 220 in December of '10... Stayed right around 220 since on dieting alone. By dieting, I mean eating healthy and not junk food. Also quit drinking soda all together. Mind you I'm 6'4", so the fat was very well hidden. I have people all the time tell me "you weren't even that big".... That's not the point, I was horribly unhealthy.

This all stemmed from my uncle and his son having heart attacks separated by a week. My uncle's required a triple bypass, my cousin's required a quintuple bypass. Granted my cousin's diet consisted of fast food three times a day due to his schedule with work, but that's no excuse for being unhealthy. If anything it's MUCH more convenient being healthier than it was when I was "fat". SO much less money spent at McDonalds! :biggrin:
 
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TooTallMenardo;1915404; said:
Top 10 Bad Things That Are Good For You
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To go with your list:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19121_7-basic-things-you-wont-believe-youre-all-doing-wrong.html

7 Basic Things You Won't Believe You're All Doing Wrong

#7. Pooping

What could be simpler than taking a good crap? Even babies are good at it. You might be surprised, then, to find out that even those of us who can burp without throwing up get this wrong every single day.

Chances are the pooping facility nearest you is a sitting toilet, a relatively recent invention that flushed its way into mankind's heart with the advent of indoor plumbing in the 19th century. Indoor plumbing has turned out pretty well for the most part, but the pooping style that came with it definitely has not. Pooping on a modern sitting toilet is a big part of where hemorrhoids come from, and it can also cause diverticular disease, an age-related condition that pretty much only occurs in parts of the world where sitting toilets are used, and which can lead to a range of pleasantries up to and including colonic obstruction. And things aren't getting better: The last few decades have seen a rise in popularity of "comfort height" toilets that sit two to four inches higher off the ground than older models and that make our pooping predicament even worse.

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