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cincibuck said:
And it’s shit like this that will always get me to root for Michigan when they play Notre dame.
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I root for the comedy. Like the time Notre Dame chased Devin Gardner into his own endzone, then he heaved it up in an attempt to avoid the sack, and Notre Dame intercepted it already in the endzone. It works just as well, in my mind, if you switch the two teams.
 
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Zurp said:
I root for the comedy. Like the time Notre Dame chased Devin Gardner into his own endzone, then he heaved it up in an attempt to avoid the sack, and Notre Dame intercepted it already in the endzone. It works just as well, in my mind, if you switch the two teams
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Bonus footage! Gardner got sacked on the play before the pick 6!

Apologies for linking a ND account video.....it's the only video of that play I could find.

 
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Have been around the block several times, and so much that my brain gets muddled. Help me understand/remember: How come ND is treated as the second coming. Agree they've got a faithful attendance/tv crowd, but how the bloody hell do they continue to get such preferential treatment? They've got their own TV deal, and the playoff rules are constantly bent to favor ND getting in. They don't have to join a conference, but play in the ACC, although they're not eligible for the league playoff. They (IMHO) were second tier football program for past 15-20 years, but were still treated like rock stars (they were not). Can someone please put me out of my misery, and cogently explain 'how come'? There's gotta be others out there that are questioning this very same thing....PS, when daughter and family toured Northwestern, she heard someone say they were going to ND the next day. She asked if we could as well, pointed out that the next day we were touring tOSU, but if she went there, her grandfather would turn vertical flips in his grave. Thanks in advance.
 
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calibuck said:
Have been around the block several times, and so much that my brain gets muddled. Help me understand/remember: How come ND is treated as the second coming. Agree they've got a faithful attendance/tv crowd, but how the bloody hell do they continue to get such preferential treatment? They've got their own TV deal, and the playoff rules are constantly bent to favor ND getting in. They don't have to join a conference, but play in the ACC, although they're not eligible for the league playoff. They (IMHO) were second tier football program for past 15-20 years, but were still treated like rock stars (they were not). Can someone please put me out of my misery, and cogently explain 'how come'? There's gotta be others out there that are questioning this very same thing....PS, when daughter and family toured Northwestern, she heard someone say they were going to ND the next day. She asked if we could as well, pointed out that the next day we were touring tOSU, but if she went there, her grandfather would turn vertical flips in his grave. Thanks in advance.
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Money is usually the answer, so I'll go with that. I don't know what "cogently" means. Is my answer "cogent"?

Lots of teams spend 15-20 years as "second tier" programs (depending on how you're defining the tier system).

Also, not defend Notre Dame, but not being in a conference might be hurting them. They don't have the benefit of getting Minnesota and Northwestern and Purdue on their schedules every year. Or Rutgers or Maryland. But they get the finger for scheduling Purdue and Rice and Navy and Syracuse. My point is that they schedule 12 games a year, while conference teams only schedule 3, and then they're given the rest of their games. Some years, ND will have a tougher schedule. Other years, they'll have an easier schedule.

I do find it funny that ND insists that they stay independent. This ensures that they remain the 3rd highest paid team in the state of Indiana.
 
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