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North Carolina Tar Heels (official thread)

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Apparently Blake was getting money from Wichard, the NFL agent who was involved in that party in South Florida that started the whole mess. Pro Tect is Wichard's agency.

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Report: Blake tied to prominent NFL agent

A financial connection between veteran NFL agent Gary Wichard and former North Carolina assistant John Blake has been established in a Yahoo! Sports story posted Wednesday.

The story states that Wichard has been paying Blake large amounts of money and that a credit card was issued in Blake's name within the last three years. Blake resigned from North Carolina on Sept. 5 saying he didn't want to be a "distraction" while NCAA and state investigations were underway. Wichard and Blake are under investigation by the NCAA and North Carolina Secretary of State for possible agent tampering of college athletes.

"I don't get involved with him bringing me players or anything like that," Wichard told Yahoo! Sports. "It has not happened."

However, documentation in the story could suggest otherwise. The story says there were at least six wire transfers from Wichard's private bank to Blake. Blake got a $45,000 loan from that bank, The First National Bank of Long Island. Blake also reportedly got a Pro Tect Management credit card in his name.

In essence, this could be the first-ever case of a major-college football coach being a "runner" for an agent. If the allegations are true, Carolina could be in line for major sanctions.

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woofermazing;1790627; said:
I always thought UNC's rise from awful to below average was a bit too fast to be legitimate.
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Not to defend Butch in any fashion, but how does players-who are already on campus and in the program-accepting benefits like these clowns apparently did mean that the program's rise was not legitimate? What advantage did the program get from that? Better recruits because the recruits know they'll get diamond earrings from an agent if they go to UNC?

Not too likely, I think. More likely is the same agent would give the same benefits to ANY player from ANY school if that agent thinks the kid has a decent chance in the NFL draft.

Did Butch cut some corners by getting some players of, shall we say, questionable character? Maybe so and if that's the chance he took this is the possible outcome. But I still don't see how these guys taking jewelry and beach vacations was otherwise any advantage to UNC!
 
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Zippercat;1790639; said:
Not to defend Butch in any fashion, but how does players-who are already on campus and in the program-accepting benefits like these clowns apparently did mean that the program's rise was not legitimate? What advantage did the program get from that? Better recruits because the recruits know they'll get diamond earrings from an agent if they go to UNC?
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You don't think a large portion of them would be in the pros this year if not for the agent relations? Maybe not, I guess I've just assumed that's why a lot of them came back.
 
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BigJim;1790658; said:
You don't think a large portion of them would be in the pros this year if not for the agent relations? Maybe not, I guess I've just assumed that's why a lot of them came back.
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I don't follow close enough to known if any of these guys actually made that choice or really had a chance of being picked by the NFL last draft.

Would a player actually go back to college for another season becasue he got a trip to Miami? Seems more likely to just steer him to the agent?
 
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Guys that took gifts and benefits and told the truth about it got 4 to 6 games. Guys that lied to the NCAA abuot it lost the whole season.

CFN

On Monday, the North Carolina football team determined the fate of the three highest profile players who were under investigation by the NCAA for improper contact with agents.

Defensive tackle Marvin Austin was dismissed from the team for violations of NCAA benefits, preferential treatment and ethical conduct rules. The program based the decision on recent information gathered as part of the joint investigation with the NCAA. His case was not submitted to the NCAA for reinstatement.

Defensive end Robert Quinn and wide receiver Greg Little were ruled permanently ineligible according to a decision by the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff. The university declared both players ineligible for violations of NCAA agent benefits, preferential treatment and ethical conduct rules. According to the information submitted by the university, the total value of the benefits was approximately $5,642 for Quinn and $4,952 for Little.

Earlier this year, cornerback Kendric Burney and safety Deunta Williams were found to receive improper benefits and trips from agents or former players. They received suspensions of six and four games, respectively. Perhaps the aspect that was most damaging to the cases of Quinn and Little was that both lied to investigators.

Based upon information gathered by the school and the NCAA Agent, Gambling and Amateurism staff during its joint investigation, unethical conduct charges were found against both players for providing false and misleading information. According to the facts submitted by the university, each player was not truthful during three separate interviews with university and NCAA enforcement staff members. Quinn and Little only provided more accurate information when presented with evidence that was contrary to their initial statements.

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http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...-nicks-provided-improper-benefits-to-players/


A report released by the University of North Carolina today brought to light that five former college players ?Mahlon Carey, Hakeem Nicks, Omar Brown, Vernon Davis, and a person from Miami ?whose full name is not known? ? provided upwards of $6000 total in ?impermissible gifts of cash and jewelry and impermissible assistance with lodging, travel, transportation and entertainment expenses? to members of the Tar Heels football team.
None of the players receiving the benefits were named, but the report did mention that some of the costs were repaid prior to the athletes knowing their actions violated NCAA guidelines.
Nicks, who currently plays for the New York Football Giants (you must respect), reportedly ponied up $3300 of that total himself, but thought he was ?helping out friends and fellow Tar Heels.? Now, whether Nicks was helping players get their bling on, or helping his university get involved in one of the worst scandals of the year, we?re not sure.
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Ramsay has played in 4 games, 2 of them wins.

SI.com

NCAA rules N. Carolina's McAdoo, Ramsay permanently ineligible


CHAPEL HILL, N.C.(AP) -- The NCAA has ruled North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo and fullback Devon Ramsay permanently ineligible.
In a news release Monday, the school said it would appeal the ruling. Both players will remain ineligible until the appeal process is complete.

McAdoo and Ramsay were the last players awaiting word on their status amid the NCAA investigation into agent-related benefits and possible academic violations. McAdoo was one of the 13 players who missed the opener against LSU and hadn't played this season.

Ramsay played four games before the school decided to hold him out. The school said the NCAA won't require the Tar Heels to forfeit either of the two wins in which Ramsay played.

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Carolina is not imposing any self-sanctions, and it looks like they plan on keeping Butch Davis.

SI.com

UNC not self-imposing sanctions

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) -- North Carolina doesn't plan any self-imposed sanctions on the school's football program amid an NCAA investigation into agent-related benefits and academic misconduct, Chancellor Holden Thorp said Thursday.

"We don't have plans to take any more actions than the ones we've taken," Thorp said. "Obviously something could happen. Some information could come out or the NCAA could send us information that we don't know about that could change that. But we've been working on this for four months ... and we don't think there's a lot of new information that's going to come out, so we feel really good about where we are."

Thorp spoke shortly after he, athletic director Dick Baddour and coach
Butch Davis updated the school's board of trustees on the investigation.

Thorp again publicly supported Baddour and Davis, saying that there is no information connecting Davis to potential violations that sidelined some players for a few games, caused others to be declared permanently ineligible by the NCAA and led to the departure of an assistant coach with close ties to an agent.

Baddour said the fourth-year coach handled "the most difficult times in a dignified and professional manner."
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However, now UNC awaits the final NCAA ruling.

Baddour said the school hasn't received a letter outlining violations from the NCAA, which would signify a shift to a potential penalty phase.
Thorp has said the process could take a year to complete, though Baddour didn't specify a time when asked by trustee Wade Hargrove.
"I don't know what to tell you on that," Baddour said. "That is out of our control."

Earlier this week, the NCAA issued rulings on the last two players whose status was in question, and Thorp said both the NCAA and school were largely finished with their investigations.

In all, 14 players missed at least one game. Seven will miss the entire season, with three declared permanently ineligible and a fourth kicked off the team. Another player played the first four games before being held out and was declared permanently ineligible by the NCAA earlier this week.

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