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Noah Spielman (DE Wheaton College)

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Yeah, I'm not seeing that the victim is Muslim either. Two references to Muslim:

After the vehicle began moving, the players played Middle Eastern music and made offensive comments about Muslims, according to the victim's account.
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At one point, the players suggested to the freshman that he had been kidnapped by Muslims who wanted to fornicate with goats, the teen told investigators.
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Not saying that he isn't Muslim, but I find it really hard to believe. Just last year they tried to fire a tenured professor for suggesting that Muslims and Christians worship the same God.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...n-college-professor-fired-20160105-story.html

That said, and I may lose my dollars here, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that there's no Muslim students on campus. Frankly, being an ultra conservative bible school as it is, I'd be hard pressed to believe that the first question on the application doesn't ask "What denomination of Christianity are you?"

Oh, and for what it's worth, some of you may know Wheaton as one of the last dry towns in the country... and you'd be right. Just became legal to possess alcohol in the '60s. The city became wet in '85. There were no free standing bars here... and frankly, there may still be none. We do have a brew pub that sells virtually no food and they serve beer... but no hard liquor. The college, while ultra conservative, is right in the middle of the most conservative place I've ever lived. We make Orange County look like the East Bay.

But, property values are good... schools are excellent. And I know people who don't have a key to the locks on their front door. That's not a joke... can't lock their front door when they leave. And nobody thinks twice about it. It's a very different world.
 
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LostLassie said:
Had to go re-read the story, then cross-reference it, because I had the impression the kid was muslim, too. It did strike me as odd that a muslim would be on their football team, but that was the impression that was left from the first article.
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It's very easy to see how someone would have assumed that from the scant info in the first linked article: you'd think an editor should have tried to make that more clear.
Anyway, it's a (relatively) good thing for the charged players, considering how that might veer into hate-crime territory.
 
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JCOSU86 said:
If hazing a teammate by duct-taping his hands and feet and attempting to sodomize him with an object before they left him in an off-campus park while half-naked is wrong...
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What was the object? Do we know?

And why sodomizing? This makes no sense, especially in light of the "root beet kegger" -- I mean I can see how hazing goes wrong when you're black out drunk but...

Are the sneaking bath salts in the dorms or something?
 
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AKAK said:
What was the object? Do we know?

And why sodomizing? This makes no sense, especially in light of the "root beet kegger" -- I mean I can see how hazing goes wrong when you're black out drunk but...

Are the sneaking bath salts in the dorms or something?
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It kinda seems to be a thing. I remembered a kid on some ESPiN special, and in trying to do a search on violent hazings, it just opens up pages of crap. As homophobic as a lot of sports programs seem to be, there sure is a lot of interest in acting out sodomy. Repression, much?

Twenty years of incidents compiled by ESPiN:

http://www.espn.com/otl/hazing/list.html

The Outside the Lines special was from one year ago:

“We became familiar with this kind of hazing back in the fall of 2014 with a very well publicized case in Sayreville, NJ. We were all shocked at this kind of sexualized hazing and wondered if this was an isolated case,” coordinating producer Tim Hays said. “Over several months we noticed more and more examples of high school boys sodomizing younger boys as part of a hazing ritual. As we did more research on the subject we found these kinds of incidents were exploding nationally, but no one was talking about it.”
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https://www.espnfrontrow.com/2016/0...me-hazing-special-reveals-disturbing-details/
 
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LostLassie said:
It kinda seems to be a thing. I remembered a kid on some ESPiN special, and in trying to do a search on violent hazings, it just opens up pages of crap. As homophobic as a lot of sports programs seem to be, there sure is a lot of interest in acting out sodomy. Repression, much?

Twenty years of incidents compiled by ESPiN:

http://www.espn.com/otl/hazing/list.html

The Outside the Lines special was from one year ago:



https://www.espnfrontrow.com/2016/0...me-hazing-special-reveals-disturbing-details/
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Ok. So, if I ask about sodomy going forward, let assume it's rhetorical.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
We're ignoring the most important, and possibly damning, question. Was anyone's weekend ruined by this crime or the reporting of it?
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Apparently no. The Root beer Kegger seemed to proceed as though taking a frosh from his room, duct taped arms and legs with a pillow cover over his head is standard operating procedure.

I'm sure that they were just turning the other cheek and missed what was happening.
 
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