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NIU RB Garrett Wolfe (official thread)

MililaniBuckeye;626274; said:
The thing is that Wolfe is their offense, and every single opposing defense knows it, yet no one can stop him...no one.

I agree with Mili, that is the fact that impresses me the most.

You may not, by the way, believe that he would get the same yardage against our defense today. After all, it was their first game together, but so what? What's the worst you think he would get? If he got 125 yards that would still be a great performance and then you still have to add on his reception yardage.

That said, let's not forget that Troy Smith has every bit as big a bullseye printed on his chest. And no one can stop him either.
 
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ScriptOhio;625710; said:
It is hard to believe that this guy was only a "2 star" recruit:

Garrett Wolfe
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All-purpose back
Chicago (IL) Holy Cross
Ht: 5-foot-8
Wt: 180 lbs
Forty: 4.4 secs
Class: 2002 (High School)

Anyone know if he had any offers from a BCS conference school?
Florida offered him, and someone from out west that I can't remember offerd him to.

He was getting alot of interest from big schools, but his grades scared them off. Wolfe was ineligible his 1st year's at NIU because he was off by 1 credit, and it wasn't his fault. We messed up what how many credits he needed.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;626274; said:
The thing is that Wolfe is their offense, and every single opposing defense knows it, yet no one can stop him...no one.

Reminds me of Troy Davis at Iowa State, who had 2 2000 yard seasons in a row if I recall. That was amazing then, and Wolfe is amazing now. I just don't get the haters here (not meaning you Mili, since I quoted you)
 
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Barring Wolfe laying a dud somewhere (which I can't see happening since it's never happend before), his Heisman chances will probably come down to the Iowa game. If he can up about 125-150 yards on Iowa, then his Heisman hopes will be sustained. If he gets up around 200, or has 280 combo yards like he did vs. the best team in the nation, then it will be hard to deny him the Heisman.
 
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G-FORCE;626392; said:
He was getting alot of interest from big schools, but his grades scared them off. Wolfe was ineligible his 1st year's at NIU because he was off by 1 credit, and it wasn't his fault. We messed up what how many credits he needed.
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Do you know what kind of athletes them MAC schools have? :paranoid:
 
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NIU's Wolfe no longer a secret

October 6, 2006
By Tim Cronin Daily Southtown columnist
Garrett Wolfe's secret is out.
The nation's most elusive running back revealed it this week, almost off-handed, during a telephone chat with reporters. Now we know how the Northern Illinois senior tailback finds holes where there are none and escapes the clutches of those who wish to do him harm.
He sees the game evolve in slow motion.
All the great ones do. On the ice, Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky could deduce what was happening and what would happen next more quickly than anyone else. At the plate, Ted Williams could see the rotation of the seams on the ball as it came to him, soon to be belted to a distant outpost over the center fielder's head. Gale Sayers had the gift on the football field, and how he ran with graceful ferocity at Kansas and with the Bears has never been duplicated.
Wolfe, whose favorite football player is Jim Brown, is moving in that direction, and swiftly. He doesn't have Sayers' freakish ability to take one step and thence be going full speed in another direction. So far, doing that at 75 percent with prompt acceleration to 100 percent, has been sufficient. Wolfe sees the opposition coming, does the geometry in his head and finds an escape route more easily than those watching him find their way to the fridge for a cold one.
Last week, Wolfe ran for 353 yards in Northern Illinois' 40-28 win over Ball State. That's his career single-game high, but it's early. There are seven games, maybe as many as nine, left in his senior season.
The next one is Sunday night, when the Huskies visit Miami (Ohio) in a Mid-American Conference game. ESPN has lined it up against NBC's NFL telecast, but make no mistake, the most electrifying player on any field Sunday will be wearing No. 1 for Northern Illinois. He'll be the one who is blurry most of the time, the camera straining to catch up.
Joe Novak, the head coach who has an affinity for finding great running backs, assures all concerned there are actual plays in the Huskies' offensive playbook. When Wolfe runs, the Huskies' running game is pure improv. When quarterback Phil Horvath hands Wolfe the ball, it's like Ella Fitzgerald singing scat. You didn't know how she'd get to the finish, but the trip would be grand.
That's Wolfe. He darts like an eel en route to the line, one direction, then another, picking his way through the moving maze built of 285-pound men intent on crushing him. That he's 5-foot-7 and 177 pounds is a help, not a hindrance. He can sneak under the line if necessary, bursting into daylight the way a train roars out of a mountain tunnel.
In the open, Wolfe doesn't move the chains. He renders them superfluous. Give him a step and he's gone. Not gone for 15 yards. Gone as in gone. End zone gone. Set off the fireworks gone.
Heisman Trophy gone.
Really. Wolfe is the best running back in the country not playing in the NFL. He may be the best college football player in the country, ahead of quarterback Troy Smith at Ohio State, with whom he converses on the phone, and ahead of quarterback Brady Quinn at Notre Dame and all the rest of those whose spotlight is brighter, by virtue of whom they play for.
The gaudy numbers Wolfe is putting up -- 1,181 yards in five games, a record for yardage at that stage of a season in Division I-A -- only begin to tell the story.
Those aren't stat-padding yards. Novak pulls Wolfe when the game is out of reach, one way or the other. For example, the Huskies were summarily crushed by Ohio State 35-12 in the opener. It was over five seconds into the second quarter. Wolfe didn't play much past the middle of the fourth quarter. He still gained 171 yards on 26 carries, plus caught five passes for another 114 yards, including a touchdown reception in which he escaped two tacklers and ran over a third at the goal line.
He's tough, this Wolfe. He's a team guy on a team of team guys. He can throw blocks when called upon, but that's like taking a Rolls-Royce to a drive-thru. Something's out of kilter. Better that he has the football in hand, securely protected, driving through the line, arm out front.
Like, say, the statue of the Heisman.
All this, the 4,417 career yards, the 45 rushing touchdowns, the 176.7 yards-per-game career average, has not gone unnoticed by opponents. As might be expected, they're loading up defensively, going from the standard seven men assigned to the run to eight and nine. That loading of the box gives Horvath a wealth of passing options, but with Wolfe able to beat the odds, not handing off would be like telling Baryshnikov to dance flat-footed.
"I'd love to see Garrett Wolfe win the Heisman Trophy, but if they're going to line nine men up in the box every play, it's going to be tough for him to get his 200 yards," Novak said earlier this week.
Maybe not. As Novak and Wolfe noted, once Wolfe is through the traffic, only two men are left to beat him. More often than not, they're mere pylons on the way to the end zone.
"Those safeties can't catch him to weigh and measure him," Novak said.
Such grand success was hardly expected when Novak visited Holy Cross High School on Chicago's North Side and looked at film. Even for a high school back, Wolfe was small.
"I saw a kid who was tremendously productive," Novak said. "Gaining 200, 180 yards a game. What everybody was concerned about was his size. I didn't think I was going to hand it to him 30 times a game. I thought he'd be a 10-15 time a game guy."
But Novak also saw the per-game average, and that negated the concern over size. He offered a scholarship, Wolfe accepted, also expecting part-time duty. Then he turned out to be as unstoppable in college as he was in preps.
"I saw the speed of the game change," Wolfe said. "I hit the weights harder. But carrying 10-15 times a game, that was the idea going into my sophomore season."
Now, the idea is to run as often as necessary to win, and if any postseason baubles come his way -- say, a trip to New York for the Heisman announcement -- well, O'Hare's an hour from the cornfields of DeKalb. Meanwhile, Wolfe will keep running, even as the defense stalks him, moving in slow motion as he rockets by.
 
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G-FORCE;626396; said:
If he gets up around 200, or has 280 combo yards like he did vs. the best team in the nation, then it will be hard to deny him the Heisman.

I don't think it would be that hard. I don't think he will win it. Being from a non-BCS conference team, and not being in typical national-audience-type games, he won't get the press he deserves. Unless some type of media monster gets on his bandwagon, he will never get the press he truly deserves. ESPN was mostly aboard the Brady Quinn bandwagon at the start of the season. Since they lost to Michigan, many have jumped off to Troy Smith, Adrian Peterson, or whoever. I have heard/seen more about Wolfe lately, but as long as Ohio State keeps winning, Troy Smith isn't going to lose supporters, and he'll only gain supporters if Oklahoma, Auburn, and some of the undefeateds lose. It may take a couple of 500+ yard-games (combined rushing and receiving), for Wolfe to win.

I'm not saying it's right. In fact, I believe that the Heisman should go to the best player, regardless of position, team, and national championship hopes. That player may be Wolfe. It may not be Wolfe. I'm not a voter, so I'm going to go back to my work, now.
 
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Oklahoma State played some bad teams in 1988. The way I see it, 7 of the 11 games in the regular season were against teams that were not so good. Of course, nobody remembers because he played in the Big Eight.

Miami (OH) - 0-10-1 BAD
Tulsa - 4-7 (beat K-State, UNLV 4-7, Temple 4-7, Colorado St 1-10) BAD
Missouri - 3-7-1 BAD
Kansas State - 0-11 BAD
Kansas - 1-10 BAD
Iowa State - 5-6 (beat Kansas, K-State, Tulane 5-6, Northern Iowa Div. I-AA, Missouri) BAD
Texas Tech - 5-6 (beat Baylor 6-5, Rice 0-11, Texas 4-7, TCU 4-7, Lamar) BAD

Game 12 (Holiday Bowl) didn't count toward season total.

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G-FORCE;626396; said:
Barring Wolfe laying a dud somewhere (which I can't see happening since it's never happend before), his Heisman chances will probably come down to the Iowa game. If he can up about 125-150 yards on Iowa, then his Heisman hopes will be sustained. If he gets up around 200, or has 280 combo yards like he did vs. the best team in the nation, then it will be hard to deny him the Heisman.
There's no doubt in my mind the Wolfe rips off about 175-200 on Iowa. Still, the stigma of playing for a MAC team will keep him from winning it. He'll get the trip to NY, but he'll be a bridesmaid.

Steve19;626307; said:
You may not, by the way, believe that he would get the same yardage against our defense today. After all, it was their first game together, but so what? What's the worst you think he would get? If he got 125 yards that would still be a great performance and then you still have to add on his reception yardage.
I'd say our defense today would hold him to between 100-120 rushing, and around 70-80 receiving. Still, 170-200 total yards against the #1 team with their defense keying on even more than they did the first time would be extremely impressive.
 
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G-FORCE;627322; said:
Oklahoma State played some bad teams in 1988. The way I see it, 7 of the 11 games in the regular season were against teams that were not so good. Of course, nobody remembers because he played in the Big Eight.

Miami (OH) - 0-10-1 BAD
Tulsa - 4-7 (beat K-State, UNLV 4-7, Temple 4-7, Colorado St 1-10) BAD
Missouri - 3-7-1 BAD
Kansas State - 0-11 BAD
Kansas - 1-10 BAD
Iowa State - 5-6 (beat Kansas, K-State, Tulane 5-6, Northern Iowa Div. I-AA, Missouri) BAD
Texas Tech - 5-6 (beat Baylor 6-5, Rice 0-11, Texas 4-7, TCU 4-7, Lamar) BAD

Game 12 (Holiday Bowl) didn't count toward season total.

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Nobody I have ever heard of that saw him play would dispute that Barry Sanders deserved his Heisman...no matter who he played.
 
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G-FORCE;627340; said:
And I'm not saying he shouldn't have. All I am saying he wasn't exactly playing excellent competition either.

I know, but I think what I am trying to say is that Wolfe racking up huge numbers will not be enough...in other words, if he approaches or breaks Barry's record, people won't necessarily equate Wolfe on the same plain as Barry, because Barry was Barry...and that could still cost him Heisman votes. Does that make sense?
 
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Bucklion;627343; said:
I know, but I think what I am trying to say is that Wolfe racking up huge numbers will not be enough...in other words, if he approaches or breaks Barry's record, people won't necessarily equate Wolfe on the same plain as Barry, because Barry was Barry...and that could still cost him Heisman votes. Does that make sense?
Yeah it does.
 
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Zurp;626931; said:
...but as long as Ohio State keeps winning, Troy Smith isn't going to lose supporters, and he'll only gain supporters if Oklahoma, Auburn, and some of the undefeateds lose. It may take a couple of 500+ yard-games (combined rushing and receiving), for Wolfe to win.

As I read the media this week, it hit me that Troy Smith will come under pressure for the Heisman this year unless Ohio State hangs 50 or so on a couple of the easier teams we are playing during this stretch or he repeats his TSUN mastery. There are faint rumblings starting to come out of the woodwork that Ohio State's offense isn't all that it was supposed to be. Mandel has made comments, as have others on ESPN, Fox and CBSSportsline. People are blowing up Wolfe and citing his total yardage against Ohio State as if it was running yardage.

One of the things I teach is content analysis of media. In my opinion, I sense the beginning of a small shift. It's not worrying yet but there are signs that things could shift radically over the next few games as Florida gets attention for playing three tough opponents, we play a series of easier games, Notre Dame regains winning form against some easy opponents and St Quinn is resurrected, and Wolfe puts up big numbers.

This easier game stretch hurts Troy and the Buckeyes. There are at least three journalists today saying that if Florida wins the next three games, they should be #1, not Ohio State. If we get a speed wobbly somewhere and have a close game that we are supposed to win easily, then things could shift for us. I don't think they will, but we shouldn't be complacent.

So, at this point, I think that Troy is a firm Heisman favorite and, most importantly, he is acting the part of a Heisman candidate and speaking that part well too. Nevertheless, the Heisman is not his to lose. He still has a lot of work to do to earn it and there are signs that the press is open to others if he fails to impress. I think he will impress but with Tressel's inclination to not run up scores, one hopes that he will not lose support.
 
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Steve19;627356; said:
One of the things I teach is content analysis of media. In my opinion, I sense the beginning of a small shift. It's not worrying yet but there are signs that things could shift radically over the next few games as Florida gets attention for playing three tough opponents, we play a series of easier games, Notre Dame regains winning form against some easy opponents and St Quinn is resurrected, and Wolfe puts up big numbers.
This is what pisses me off...we could get punished for playing a string of weaker teams whilst ND gets praised for beating the same level of competition.

Steve19;627356; said:
This easier game stretch hurts Troy and the Buckeyes. There are at least three journalists today saying that if Florida wins the next three games, they should be #1, not Ohio State.
Unless those journalists have a direct vote on who's playing in the NC game, I couldn't care less what they think.
 
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