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BuckeyeNation27;1559957; said:
There is a reason we say it is alot like Tecmo Bowl. Keying on the run is TOO effective. Key on the run middle and it stops 90% of runs up the middle for a loss (and those that aren't losses are 1-2yrd gains) and keying up the middle also stops about 50% of outside runs for losses too.
Not so much for keying on the pass. It isn't as severe as keying on the run.
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Basebuck;1559965; said:
I agree with that part. It would have to be a black and white rule. Doing it sometimes would leave too much of a gray area.
Then the other part is what to do with people that break that rule? Basically consider it cheesing? ie you can call out the guy that does it during the game. (hit start and PM him) If he is abusing it even after being told it would be subject to being kicked out? Or at least results being kicked out and then putting the offending party on autopilot?
I don't think this should be a majority rule vote, it would have to be almost unanimous vote (like 9 or 10 out of 12)
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Smooth Olaf
Checking out Channel 9, man.
How would it be enforced? I know if I key on the pass an it works, I get a message saying something like "Play the Pass +5." However, if someone successfully plays the pass against me, there's no message.
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Smooth Olaf;1559998; said:
I thought I have seen that message when other people are successful. But I might have been mistaken.
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Smooth Olaf
Checking out Channel 9, man.
The passing keys aren't the problem. They don't guarantee anything. If anything, they just prevent the DBs from biting on the play action. It's the running keys that are out of whack.
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THEWOOD;1560012; said:
IF we vote to ban defensive keys, a punishment for someone who abuses the keys AFTER we ban them could be putting the offending party on autopilot. I would then throw out the game results and let the other party replay the game. But I am just throwing it out there as a possible punishment.
BuckeyeNation27;1560026; said:
Have you been cheesed on? Haven't heard any complaints really.
IronBuckI;1560041; said:
Like I said earlier... run keys are like Tecmo Bowl, but the pass keys seem less severe and doesn't really make it impossible to complete a pass. Really it seems pass keys tend to help pass rush a little and I see more DBs breaking up passes. But it isn't like WRs are blanketed and INTs happening left and right by using the pass key. At least in my humble opinion.
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I've only played 1 game in what feels like a year....so I can't even remember. I just know cheesing complaints in the past never amounted to anything....and it's not worth upsetting people who I'd consider friends just because I suck and consider 1 thing cheesing, while somebody else considers it strategy.
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IronBuckI
Calmer than you are.
That's what I was going to suggest, and that's probably what I'll implement in the Super Conference too.Piney;1560079; said:
I read that, and I agree, but I guess my question was whether pass keys would be banned too. I use them alot in long yardage situations, and like Olaf said, it basically just makes the 'D' not bite on a play action fake. If they're banned too, then I'm just happy to get rid of the run keys, and will adjust to not having pass keys. I don't think that pass keys should be banned though, because like many of us have already said, they're not over the top, and would also be very difficult to prove that they were used.Piney;1560079; said:
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Whobebubba3
All-American
I respectively disagree and will stand by my statement until someone beats UK!
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