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NCAA to add 12th game for football in 2006?

its nice that the guy is calling out the idiot presidents who say they cant have a playoff for academic reasons.......but his whole argument is stupid.

7 games > 58 games because the 58 games would all be played on the same day while the 7 games would be played out over the course of 3 weeks.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
its nice that the guy is calling out the idiot presidents who say they cant have a playoff for academic reasons.......but his whole argument is stupid.

7 games > 58 games because the 58 games would all be played on the same day while the 7 games would be played out over the course of 3 weeks.
Those 7 games would be meat grinders while the 58 games will most likely be easy games for the better teams.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
exactly. the SEC 12th game would all be D1-AA teams :lol:
Your comment may become reality very soon.

The Game Within the Games
Kent State, which plays Division I-A football, averaged slightly more than 10,500 for six home games last season.
Ed Suba Jr./Akron Beacon Journal
Kent State, which plays Division I-A football, averaged slightly more than 10,500 for six home games last season.

By BILL PENNINGTON

Published: April 27, 2005

For more than 30 years, major college football teams have been labeled Division I-A by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, distinguishing them from Division I-AA teams, which play a lower-cost, and lower-profile, version of the game.

In time, exacting membership standards were established for universities to stay in Division I-A, including a requirement that every team average at least 15,000 in home attendance or be relegated to Division I-AA. At the end of last season, that regulation should have caused the expulsion of several universities that did not meet the attendance cutoff.

But at a meeting this week, the N.C.A.A. Division I board of directors will most likely save those programs by repealing or drastically modifying the requirement.

Talk of changing or eliminating the requirement has set in motion a series of related proposals to change other rules, including permitting more games between I-A and I-AA teams to count toward eligibility for bowl games and to do away with the designation I-AA.

These proposals, and a measure to allow a 12th regular-season game in college football, make up a weighty agenda for the Division I board of directors, who are to meet tomorrow in Indianapolis. "It could be a pretty energetic meeting," Robert Hemenway, the board chairman, said. "And I've learned not to predict how the board will act."

In the future, any of the 117 Division I-A teams with an attendance problem may simply be allowed to buy enough tickets to its own games - at a substantial discount - to reach the 15,000 minimum. It would not matter if anyone actually used a ticket to sit in a seat. The key statistic would be 15,000 in paid attendance.

"It's more than unseemly, it's dysfunctional," said Scott S. Cowen, the Tulane University president and a member of the Division I board of directors. "It could lead to a lot of unintended consequences, with schools doing things that are not in keeping with the spirit of college athletics."

Cowen supports eliminating the attendance requirement entirely.

Hemenway, president of the University of Kansas, said: "I think a lot of institutions view the attendance requirement as a pain in the neck. It's too hard to control with so many variables like the weather. And there is gamesmanship with the attendance figures now. A private donor can buy up all the tickets to the last home game just to make sure you're over the minimum."

Kent State, which plays Division I-A football, averaged slightly more than 10,500 for six home games last season. Carol A. Cartwright, the Kent State president, is on the Division I board of directors and has helped lead the discussion about altering the attendance requirement. Also on the 18-member board is Sidney McPhee, the president of Middle Tennessee State University, whose Division I-A football team drew fewer than 15,000 fans a game.

Cartwright said: "Some of us felt we were too vulnerable to something out of our control. Last year, we had some freakish weather on the day of two midseason home games, and our numbers went south after that. We can exercise control over every requirement to be in I-A, but it's unrealistic to think we can always manage our attendance. I'm delighted my colleagues on the board have listened."

Division I-A football universities are required to outspend their 122 I-AA counterparts in many ways, most prominently in the number of athletic scholarships that can be awarded (85 total in I-A, 63 in I-AA, although some I-AA programs, like those in the Ivy League, have none). The payoff for I-A institutions, in exposure by the news media and in possible multimillion dollar appearances in major bowl games, can be worth the investment, although an overwhelming majority loses money on football.

This has not stopped a significant number of universities from abandoning I-AA football for I-A in the last few years. Some leaders of I-AA conferences say the watering down or elimination of the attendance requirement would increase the migration to I-A and devalue I-AA football. So when the Division I board of directors first began talking about changing the attendance requirement in January, a caucus of commissioners from I-AA conferences persuaded the N.C.A.A. to propose a series of compromise measures meant to appease I-AA members.

Called the I-AA enhancements, these proposals are on tomorrow's agenda next to the modification of the attendance requirement. The first proposal calls for emergency N.C.A.A. legislation for the 2005 football season to allow I-A football teams to apply one victory each season against an I-AA team toward the six victories needed for eligibility to a bowl game.

The second proposal would allow one game against an I-AA team a season to count toward the N.C.A.A. minimum of five home games a season for I-A teams.

The third proposal would, in essence, do away with the I-A and I-AA designations. A Division I football program would instead be identified by whether it intends to go to a major bowl game or the 16-team playoff culminating in the I-AA national championship.

Precisely what the two new divisions would be called is uncertain.

"We just don't want to be called I-AA," said Doug Fullerton, commissioner of the Big Sky Conference, one of the top I-AA leagues in the nation. "Even though it only applies to football, I-A schools recruit against us and call our basketball teams and track teams I-AA programs. They're not, but people and recruits might understand that better if we had a new term that was football specific."

If the other proposals are approved, the I-AA institutions would benefit financially from playing more I-A football teams, because the I-A teams would pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to I-AA teams to be visiting opponents. These are frequently lopsided games in favor of the home team, but the I-AA teams would get a featured appearance on a big stage - something useful in recruiting.

David Berst, the N.C.A.A. vice president for Division I and the staff liaison to the board, said he thought there was a consensus developing in the direction of approving each of the membership changes.

But interviews with several board members indicated divisions on the I-AA enhancements. On the proposal to do away with the name Division I-AA, Hemenway, the chairman, said, "I honestly don't think it'll happen."

Fullerton said if the I-AA proposals were not approved, I-AA universities might lead a revolt to override the board's decision, something virtually without precedent in the N.C.A.A.

Berst said that if 30 universities wanted to override a board decision, it would go back on the agenda for the next directors' meeting in August. If 100 member institutions want to override the decision, it is put on the convention agenda in January.

"I think we could win an override," Fullerton said. "We've got more than 100 I-AA schools, and I think some of the I-A's would come with us."

Div 1-AA proposals
 
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From Dennis Dodd at CBS.Sportsline.com - 12th game coming, and allowing 6-6 teams in bowl games probably following that decision
12th game

The NCAA Board of Directors on Thursday is expected to rubber stamp a proposal for a 12th regular-season game each year.

Twelve games works on several levels. It allows schools to pursue more neutral-site games, thus making more marquee intersectional matchups. Larger schools essentially get another home game producing millions more in revenue that wasn't there before. Smaller schools can go on the road for guarantee games that help their budgets.

Last year, the bowls came dangerously close to not filling all 56 spots in the 28 bowls. With 12 games, it is assumed that eventually the NCAA will allow 6-6 teams to be bowl eligible on a permanent basis. That decision could come as soon as July.

Conferences with championship games (ACC, Big 12, SEC) could have teams playing 14 games in a season. (12 regular season plus championship plus bowl game) The NCAA record for I-A team is 15 games played by a single team in a season.

"I wish we could play more games," Arizona State receiver Derek Hagan said this week. "It's so fun coming out each Saturday. Once the season is over it's like, 'Man, the season is over already?' Eleven games goes by so fast."

The Big 12 and Big East sponsored the legislation. At least they're being honest about the 12th game having a broad economic benefit. The NCAA presidents who are expected to adopt the legislation are part of a larger presidential group that continues to fight a playoff based on academic hardships put on athletes.

For the record, those presidents already have approved a fifth BCS bowl and a BCS title game played in the second week of January beginning in 2006. Seems pretty silly (and hypocritical) to argue against even the most modest playoff format while adding all this extra football.
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
Whoops I guess it was 07... I knwe Iowa missed both teams soon but didn't know when
I think you're talking about Purdue a few years back when, in the immortal words of Joe Tiller, twas said, "I got Ohio State and Michigan right where I want them; off of my schedule."

What a great quote.
 
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NCAA allows teams to add 12th game starting in 2006

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- The NCAA will allow football teams to play 12 games per year, but it won't enter the postseason playoff fray.
The board of directors approved proposals on Thursday that would add a 12th game to Division I-A schedules -- starting in 2006 -- allow schools to count one victory over Division I-AA schools each year toward bowl eligibility, and loosen the requirements to qualify for Division I-A status.

<!--startclickprintexclude-->"The season will not be elongated, it just means the bye week would be taken out," NCAA president Myles Brand said. "Nor will it lead to any additional midweek games.

"But I seriously suggest you take up the tournament situation with the BCS."

The Bowl Championship Series has tried to pit the two best teams in a national championship game since the system was created in 1998. The NCAA has tried to avoid the playoff debate.

One argument against a football tournament is that lengthening the season could force student-athletes to miss more classes.

Brand has supported academic reform since taking over as president in January 2003 and said Thursday that an additional football game each season won't create a problem.

Board chairman Robert Hemenway, the chancellor at Kansas, said schools could make more money with an extra game but he insisted that wasn't the only reason why the proposal passed.

"There was also a feeling that if you had another game, that it does give you some flexibility in your scheduling," he said. "A school like Oklahoma State, for instance, could possibly play a game in Tulsa or Oklahoma City and play to that fan base."

Brand said the extra money could also be used to help fund athletic departments that are losing money.

The board also adopted a resolution that strongly urged schools not to adopt the new Title IX Internet-based surveys, which the U.S. Department of Education said in March could be used to scientifically gauge whether schools must expand or create women's teams to meet demand.

"We felt that it was not true to the principles that have been in effect," Hemenway said.

The board also asked the NCAA executive committee to propose a comprehensive policy on alcohol advertising during college telecasts. Hemenway said the committee took that action after a lengthy discussion to include Division II and III events under any new standard.

On Wednesday, the American Medical Association asked the NCAA to ban all alcohol advertising. The current policy allows one minute per hour of alcohol ads and prohibits the sale or advertising of alcohol at NCAA championship events.

But the biggest winners Thursday were Division I-A football teams.

Besides the 12th game, the NCAA will allow schools to count one victory over a I-AA opponent each year, starting this fall. Previously, schools could count one win every four years.

And smaller football programs, such as those in the Mountain West and Mid-American Conferences, also got good news. The NCAA will now allow schools to qualify for Division I-A if they average 15,000 in paid or actual attendance once every two years.

Previously, schools had to have 15,000 in actual attendance.

Division I vice president David Berst said schools could also include students who attend games at a reduced price.

"I think it's a case of fixing things," Brand said. "When we went to the turnstile attendance, I think we inadvertently harmed some teams because they don't control the weather. I think that's an indication that we had the wrong rule."

The board also approved a provision that would give men's basketball coaches more flexible recruiting calendars, and another proposal allowing men's and women's basketball coaches to instruct players for up to two hours per week during the offseason.

Freshmen also will be permitted to play in preseason exhibition games and keep their four additional years of eligibility as long as they do not play the rest of that season.

Also approved was an increase in the number of scholarships for women in gymnastics, soccer, volleyball and track and field. The board agreed to grant another year of eligibility to players who were academically ineligible as freshmen but completed 80 percent of their degree requirements after four years.

The committee defeated a measure that would have allowed coaches to watch voluntary workouts.
 
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cincibuck said:
I think you're talking about Purdue a few years back when, in the immortal words of Joe Tiller, twas said, "I got Ohio State and Michigan right where I want them; off of my schedule."

What a great quote.
That is a good quote. But BFS is probably talking about 06-07, or 07-08, or maybe just 07 (sometime soon). Iowa supposedly doesn't play Michigan or Ohio State that year. I first heard about it when TheMile posted it on this message board.
 
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