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NCAA to add 12th game for football in 2006?

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http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-council&prov=ap&type=lgns



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>NCAA legislation could add 12th football game each season</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By STEVE HERMAN, AP Sports Writer
April 12, 2005

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- The NCAA Division I Management Council has backed legislation that would allow Division I-A and I-AA schools to add a 12th football game starting with the 2006 season.

The plan was given tentative approval by the council during its meeting Monday, but still must be approved by the NCAA Board of Directors when it meets April 28.

Division I vice president David Berst said Tuesday he didn't know whether the NCAA board would give final approval for a 12th football game. Only the Atlantic Coast Conference was opposed to the proposal.



"I would expect there will be more discussion,'' he said. "The board should have the freedom to make its own decision.''



There was no discussion of the issue at the council's meeting.



"The various conferences came to the meeting prepared to vote, and we just tallied the votes,'' Berst said.



Ron Wellman, the athletic director at Wake Forest and chairman of the ACC athletic directors, said many of the conference's concerns dealt with academics.



"We believe the season is long enough at 11 games, and we actually enjoy the bye week,'' he said. The council also approved legislation for more flexible recruiting calendars in men's basketball and increased the number of scholarships for women in gymnastics, soccer, volleyball and track and field. It also voted to grant another year of eligibility to players who were academically ineligible as freshmen but have completed 80 percent of their degree requirements after four years. No action was taken on the length of the season in basketball because of a pending court case, Berst said.

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Would it be another in conference game for the Big10? That would eliminate Iowa from skipping us and scum in the same year.

When did Iowa skip us and scUM in the same year? I've gone through Iowa's season schedules back through 1970 and they've played at least one of us and scUM every single year.
 
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Whoops I guess it was 07... I knwe Iowa missed both teams soon but didn't know when

Wouldn't a 12th game create an extra week of games, which is why we can't have a playoff? Or could it be that we could have one, but the greedy beneficiaries of the bowls won't allow it?
 
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I think BN27 was thinking of Purdue, who is scheduled to miss both tOSU and scUM in 2006:



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PURDUE FOOTBALL​


09/09 Miami (Ohio)
09/16 Ball State
09/23 Minnesota
09/30 at N. Dame
10/07 at Iowa
10/14 at NW'ern
10/21 Wisconsin
10/28 Penn State
11/04 at Mich. St.
11/11 at Illinois
11/18 Indiana
11/25 at Hawaii
2006 SCHEDULE​

Iowa plays us both​

2006 Iowa Hawkeyes Football Schedule


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<TABLE borderColor=#ffffff cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=350 bgColor=#eeeeee border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD class=tableheader colSpan=2>2007</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent colSpan=2>September </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>1</TD><TD class=tablecontent>Northern Illinois </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>8</TD><TD class=tablecontent>Syracuse</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>15</TD><TD class=tablecontent>at Iowa State </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>22</TD><TD class=tablecontent>at Wisconsin </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>29</TD><TD class=tablecontent>Indiana </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent colSpan=2>October </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>6</TD><TD class=tablecontent>at Penn State</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>13</TD><TD class=tablecontent>Illinois </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>20</TD><TD class=tablecontent>at Purdue </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>27</TD><TD class=tablecontent>Michigan State</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent colSpan=2>November </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>3</TD><TD class=tablecontent>at Northwestern</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablecontent>10</TD><TD class=tablecontent>Minnesota </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/future-schedules.html
 
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Nice link, Deety.

Iowa misses both tOSU and scUM in both 2007 and 2008.

Purdue misses both in 2005 and 2006.

To answer the earlier question, though, the 12th game would almost certainly be non-conference. That would allow almost every Big-10 team to get another home game, and that's more money overall for the league. That's what happened in 2002 and 2003.
 
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cleveland plain dealer

4/13/05

OSU backs NCAA plan for 12th football game


Wednesday, April 13, 2005 Bruce Hooley
Plain Dealer Reporter
Columbus- Ohio State is in line for another $4.5 million to $5 million annual payday from a 12th regular-season football game for the 2006 season and beyond after approval by the NCAA Division I Management Council on Tuesday.

OSU supported the legislation that will go before the NCAA Board of Governors on April 28 and is expected to receive final approval.

"We're overwhelming for [a 12th game] because of the finances of it," Ohio State Athletic Director Andy Geiger said. "I expect it to be approved without any problem."

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Twelve-game regular seasons were previously permitted only when the calendar included 14 Saturdays from the first permissible playing date in August through the last playing date in November.

That was the case in 2002 and 2003, which afforded OSU an extra home game each season.

Until Tuesday, the next scheduled seasons in which 12 games would have been allowed were 2008 and 2009.

Geiger estimated OSU's net profit off an additional home game at between $4.5 million and $5 million.

Last year, Ohio State raised ticket prices to $57 to cover the losses it would have suffered with six home dates, compared to eight home dates in both 2002 and 2003.

OSU's 13-game regular season in 2002 included an exempt game in the Pigskin Classic that did not count toward the first-year of an allowable 12-game schedule.

"An extra home game provides a lot of financial aid," Geiger said. "We played 12 games one year and 13 another year. It has no academic impediment, because football is the one sport where games don't cause athletes to miss class. It would if you played a Tuesday or Wednesday game, but we would never, ever do that."

OSU coach Jim Tressel echoed Geiger's support for the additional regular-season game.

"From a revenue standpoint, it's a great thing, because it gives athletic departments - including ours - an opportunity for additional revenue," Tressel said through a school spokesman. "It's an added challenge for players and coaches alike to get ready for one more game. It's been my experience that longer seasons, which demand increased focus and discipline, result in better academic performances."

The Atlantic Coast Conference was the only Division I league to oppose the 12th game before the Management Council's vote at NCAA headquarters in Indianapolis.

The ACC cited academic concerns, which Geiger disputed in light of the ACC's expansion to 12 teams two years.

"That was an unbelievably ugly experience they went through," he said of the ACC's luring Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech from the Big East. "For them to oppose this on grounds of academics and commercialism is a little bit of a red herring."

The Management Council also voted Tuesday to grant a fourth season of eligibility to basketball players who do not qualify academically to play as freshmen, provided they complete 80 percent of their degree requirements after four years.

That becomes effective Aug. 1 and applies retroactively to all players.

OSU basketball coach Thad Matta declined comment on that legislation until seeing the specifics.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

[email protected], 216-999-4748


© 2005 The Plain Dealer. Used with permission.
I think this is a good thing for college football in general.
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
Whoops I guess it was 07... I knwe Iowa missed both teams soon but didn't know when

Wouldn't a 12th game create an extra week of games, which is why we can't have a playoff? Or could it be that we could have one, but the greedy beneficiaries of the bowls won't allow it?
AND THERE YOU GO, the truth is not that it can't be done, just that it wont be done
 
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I have read a few articles on this issue in the past. One of the merits of having another non-conference game is that teams will be more inclined to schedule better opponents. This will help college football in general. This year, the top game is OSU v Texas and that is pretty much the only non-conference meeting between top programs. Adding the 12th game may force some schools who schedule cupcakes (Minny, NC State, KSU) to schedule at least 1 decent non-conference team.

I realize we have played NC State the last 2 years, but their other games were against I-AA teams such as Richmond...
 
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Additional Geiger comments from Dispatch

Geiger as quaoted in the Dispatch regarding the ACC:

"Their (ACC) presidents are on another planet. They cite academics as a reason they’re against a 12th game, and yet football is the one sport where players don’t miss school (because of their sport)."
 
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ol104 said:
I have read a few articles on this issue in the past. One of the merits of having another non-conference game is that teams will be more inclined to schedule better opponents. This will help college football in general. This year, the top game is OSU v Texas and that is pretty much the only non-conference meeting between top programs. Adding the 12th game may force some schools who schedule cupcakes (Minny, NC State, KSU) to schedule at least 1 decent non-conference team.

I realize we have played NC State the last 2 years, but their other games were against I-AA teams such as Richmond...
This could be true but lets be honest with ourselves, college sports(especially football) are about money.

The best way for a program to make money on a nonconfrence game is to have a bad team play you at home every year. The scrub is happy because they get much needed exposure and the power house gets the advantage of double ticket sales.

Maybe im just cynical but I have a hard time believing that teams would schedule better games.
 
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