NCAA sued over scholarship limitations

[jlb1705]

Maybe I should sue because I had to borrow money to go to college. I had to go into far more debt than this guy for the privilege, and I didn't get to walk into job interviews for the rest of my life getting to say I used to tote the rock for State U.

This whole "college athletics is employment and institutions are employers" argument is cute. It's clear they haven't thought through just how much athletes are already compensated in terms of tuition, housing, training tables, special athletes-only academic services, equipment, access to facilities, comped tickets and travel and other miscellaneous things. If players become "employees", then most if not all of those things become taxable. All the money that players want to go to their checking accounts? It gets spent by universities on those things. That stuff either goes away or the IRS taxes the shit out of it if these lawsuits are successful. Have fun with that.

 

[jwinslow]

This whole "college athletics is employment and institutions are employers" argument is cute. It's clear they haven't thought through just how much athletes are already compensated in terms of tuition, housing, training tables, special athletes-only academic services, equipment, access to facilities, comped tickets and travel and other miscellaneous things. If players become "employees", then most if not all of those things become taxable. All the money that players want to go to their checking accounts? It gets spent by universities on those things. That stuff either goes away or the IRS taxes the [Mark May] out of it if these lawsuits are successful. Have fun with that.

It's a laughable farce that benefits both sides.

That said, you and I would both sue the crap out of any entity that blatantly merchandised our likenesses and lied through the teeth denying it.

 

[jlb1705]

It's a laughable farce that benefits both sides.

That said, you and I would both sue the crap out of any entity that blatantly merchandised our likenesses and lied through the teeth denying it.

Absolutely. For the life of me I don't understand why Ohio State is still in the "blank" replica jersey business other than the fact that it's just lazy to produce a bunch of #5 or #2 shirts and pretend that they're not turning a quick buck off the player du jour. It seems they could still sell tons of them and dramatically decrease their liability if they only sold replicas of retired numbers or other legends who are past their eligibility. Put the names on them, pay the players their cut (or a higher cut if they pledge it to charity) and they'd sell the heck out of them. Could you imagine, if the only OSU jerseys you could buy were a #36 Spielman jersey with a percentage of the proceeds going to the Stefanie Spielman fund, or a #45 Griffin jersey with a percentage going to the Alumni Association? I think Ohio State could make just as much money off jersey sales this way, and they'd be able to go about it much more honestly.

 

[jlb1705]

Taxable..Income..The sound you here is the pounding of Democratic Lawmakers Hearts across the nation..More Revenue!!!

Please, no politics in this thread.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Please, no politics in this thread.

Damn! You guys are getting nice. I got barked at when I made that type of mistake. Haha

 

[Onebuckfan]

Absolutely. For the life of me I don't understand why Ohio State is still in the "blank" replica jersey business other than the fact that it's just lazy to produce a bunch of #5 or #2 shirts and pretend that they're not turning a quick buck off the player du jour. It seems they could still sell tons of them and dramatically decrease their liability if they only sold replicas of retired numbers or other legends who are past their eligibility. Put the names on them, pay the players their cut (or a higher cut if they pledge it to charity) and they'd sell the heck out of them. Could you imagine, if the only OSU jerseys you could buy were a #36 Spielman jersey with a percentage of the proceeds going to the Stefanie Spielman fund, or a #45 Griffin jersey with a percentage going to the Alumni Association? I think Ohio State could make just as much money off jersey sales this way, and they'd be able to go about it much more honestly.

Damn! You guys are getting nice. I got barked at when I made that type of mistake. Haha

I deleted my post..Sorry..I have a habit of being brutally honest..

 

[ScriptOhio]

USC to offer 4-year scholarships

Leading the way in student-athlete welfare, USC will now offer four-year athletic scholarships in the revenue sports.

USC will offer four-year athletic scholarships to all scholarship student-athletes in the revenue sports of football and men's and women's basketball in lieu of the current practice of offering one-year renewable scholarships, USC athletic director Pat Haden announced Monday.

Haden said this policy will be effective July 1 for all current and future scholarship student-athletes in those sports.

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/coll...er-four-year-scholarships-basketball-football

I'd like to see all other schools follow suit and do the same thing. Actually the NCAA should require it.

 

[Zurp]

I'd like to see all other schools follow suit and do the same thing. Actually the NCAA should require it.

I think this is great in theory. But I think that the schools/coaches/whatever should be allowed to pull the scholarship, if they have to remove the player from the team. And I'm thinking about off-field reasons, and not, "He missed 12 tackles in that last game last season, and I need space for this incoming freshman." If a kid can't stop breaking team rules, and you need to separate from the team from him, I think you ought not be punished by losing a scholarship.

 

[zincfinger]

USC will offer four-year athletic scholarships to all scholarship student-athletes in the revenue sports of football and men's and women's basketball...

Women's basketball is a revenue sport?

Edit: According to this article, 43 of 341 D1 women's basketball programs turned a profit in 2012. That's far more than I would have guessed. Granted, the profits are probably negligible in almost all cases and I suspect some creative accounting in some, but still far more than the zero-to-two profitable women's basketball programs that I would have guessed.

 

[cincibuck]

If the school/coach has the right to sign a kid for one year at a time, doesn't each player have the right to leave at the end of the contract? That saw should cut in both directions.

 

[MaxBuck]

If the school/coach has the right to sign a kid for one year at a time, doesn't each player have the right to leave at the end of the contract? That saw should cut in both directions.

Let me know when you're ready to leave ...

 

[ScriptOhio]

Pac-12 adopts sweeping reforms to student-athlete policy

The Pac-12 became the second major college conference – following the Big Ten – to adopt four-year scholarships, among other things, at a conference-wide meeting of presidents and chancellors Monday in San Francisco.

In addition to four-year scholarships in all sports, the Pac-12 will now guarantee the following:

• Athletes who leave campus before graduating will have their scholarships waiting for them should they return to school.
• Athletes who sustain injuries over the course of their careers will have their medical expenses covered for four years after their eligibility expires.
• Athletes who transfer between Pac-12 schools will be immediately eligible for scholarships.
• Athletes will be given a seat at the table for conference governance meetings.

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...od-smith-for-violation-of-team-rules/related/