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NCAA Rule Changes (official thread)

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Re: All agreements between agents and high school or college student-athletes must be:

I think they are getting ready for 2020 when the NBA will very likely eliminate the "one and done" rule. A high school student can opt for the draft, and if not drafted, can still be eligible for a college scholarship, etc.

NBA one-and-done rule change reportedly won't happen until 2020 at the earliest
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...tedly-wont-happen-until-2020-at-the-earliest/
 
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I see no reason why a player who declares, but is not selected, should lose eligibility. I'll go a step further and say that the whole concept of "declaring for the draft" makes no sense. You're either drafted or you're not. If you're not, or if you're drafted but don't sign, back to school you go.
 
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Recruiting calendar changes

Buckeyes coach Chris Holtmann mostly refrained from giving hard opinions on potential recruiting changes last week when asked before the team left for its trip to Spain. He did mention having some conversation with athletic director Gene Smith regarding the recruiting calendar.

Hopefully Holtmann was looking for more official visits, because that's what he and every other college basketball coach is getting. Among the changes announced on Wednesday was increasing the number of official visits (campus visits paid for by the university) a player can take from five to 15 over a multi-year period.

Now players can take:

* Five official visits between August 1 before their junior year of high school and the end of their junior year.

* Five official visits between the end of junior year and Oct. 15 after high school graduation.

* Five official visits between Oct. 15 after high school graduation and the remainder of their college eligibility. This last change can help transfers wanting to take official visits while looking for a new program, and Holtmann has said he expects to be active in the graduate transfer market most years.

A student-athlete can visit a school only once per year. This change takes effect on August 15.

Holtmann and his staff have already proven to be creative in scheduling official visits, bringing five-star point guard DJ Carton on campus last month during the live evaluation period. It was something Holtmann said he and other coaches he talked to weren't sure they could do until someone in OSU compliance figured out a way to make it work. Carton committed a few days after his visit.

For a staff that's shown an ability to close well on official visits, more opportunity to do so could be a welcome change.

Starting on April 1, 2019, the recruiting calendar will change to add four-day recruiting periods (Monday through Thursday) in April. College coaches will now be able to attend the NBPA Top 100 camp in June. Coaches can attend events during the last two weekends of June that are approved by the National Federation of State High School Associations. They can attend one weekend youth basketball event in early July (which means coaches can still attend Nike's Peach Jam).

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Which NCAA recruiting, agent changes matter most for Ohio State basketball?
 
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MaxBuck said:
I see no reason why a player who declares, but is not selected, should lose eligibility. I'll go a step further and say that the whole concept of "declaring for the draft" makes no sense. You're either drafted or you're not. If you're not, or if you're drafted but don't sign, back to school you go.
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You have to declare if you want to be invited to pre-draft activities for one. But in your scenario, say a guy isn't interested in going to the NBA after his frosh year. A team takes him 10th in the draft, but the kid doesn't like the team and wanted to return to school anyway. Does the team still own the rights to him? At what salary? Its the NBA that sets this rule just for this reason, not the NCAA. Teams want to know who is going pro and who isn't. Now baseball makes this work, but its obviously a much different sport because they run their minor leagues and almost no one goes right to the majors upon being drafted, but they do a lot of research on guys projected to go 1-5 to make sure they aren't wasting a pick on a guy thats planning on going to college for 3 years.

Fair enough I guess on the not drafted piece. Puts coaches in a bind, not knowing whether a kid might go late 2nd round or not get drafted and want to return. Can't expect them to hold scholarships for the players so we will see how that plays out.
 
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nomatta said:
If a player doesn't get drafted or is in the 2nd round and is allowed to go back to school, but that school no longer has a scholarship available, can they then go back to a different college without having to sit out a year?

Maybe in practice it won't be so bad but on paper it seems like this could get pretty messy.
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That was how I read it. Seems ripe to be exploited. 13th man on the bench wants to transfer and not sit out a year? Declare for the draft and then get a free transfer...as long as your old school fills their scholarship allotment.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
That was how I read it. Seems ripe to be exploited. 13th man on the bench wants to transfer and not sit out a year? Declare for the draft and then get a free transfer...as long as your old school fills their scholarship allotment.
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Or say the best player on a team whose prospects for making the ncaa tourney the next year aren't too good, so you declare so you can upgrade your team and go to a contender. agree we don't know how this will work in practice, but the potential problems seem much greater than the potential benefits.
 
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wigmon said:
Or say the best player on a team whose prospects for making the ncaa tourney the next year aren't too good, so you declare so you can upgrade your team and go to a contender. agree we don't know how this will work in practice, but the potential problems seem much greater than the potential benefits.
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Yeah, I think the end result will end up being a penalty-free transfer for any player in good standing, which seems to be the way the NCAA is trending in the football world right now.
 
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wigmon said:
Or say the best player on a team whose prospects for making the ncaa tourney the next year aren't too good, so you declare so you can upgrade your team and go to a contender. agree we don't know how this will work in practice, but the potential problems seem much greater than the potential benefits.
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plus he can make 5 official visits before making up his mind on what contender he wants to attend the following season
 
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I sure as hell hope that @Jake did not see the game last night because he would be mad as hell to see that new clutch and grab (or wherever they call it) rule. I understand player safety but I mean officials can see that with the naked eye. There is no need to go over to the monitor and review that type of foul. Pretty soon they will be reviewing charging calls.
 
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LitlBuck said:
I sure as hell hope that @Jake did not see the game last night because he would be mad as hell to see that new clutch and grab (or wherever they call it) rule. I understand player safety but I mean officials can see that with the naked eye. There is no need to go over to the monitor and review that type of foul. Pretty soon they will be reviewing charging calls.
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I'm not familiar with that rule change but I don't like the sound of it.

There are rules that need changed, unless I'm a minority who doesn't find the final 2 minutes foul-o-rama - that ends up taking 20 minutes as guys walk to the free throw line - and the hoarding of time outs so we can have 8 them during that 20 minute parade.

Speaking of which, let's spend 3-4 minutes reviewing so we can put a tenth of a second back on the clock because it magically stops the moment the ball hits the floor (only in the final 2 minutes). The rest of the game it stops when the clock operator stops it.
 
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I don't mind hooking being labeled as something that can draw a flagrant foul. I don't believe its something that should be reviewable. If the foul was flagrant enough, then the ref is going to see it and can call it as such, but if two guys just get tangled up fighting for position and its incidental, it shouldn't be a flagrant. I mean, I'd rather them review the "flagrant flopping" calls than these. But yes, in general, I am for reduced reviews. I am good with reviewing out of bounds calls and clock issues in the last minute of the game. I'm torn on reviewing things officials didn't see like elbows to the face, cheap shots, etc. I say let the opponent forward footage of this stuff to the NCAA for review after the game, and if egregious, the NCAA can take action on the player for subsequent games. If a player has to sit games, then the coaches will self police.
 
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