NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

[BB73]

Just so we don't think that everybody at ESPN is giving USC a free pass.

Mike Wilbon on PTI today:

"USC has quietly erased the O.J. Mayo era. SC Athletic Director Mike Garrett also ruled this year's promising squad ineligible for the postseason; all stemming from alleged payoffs involving former coach Tim Floyd and Mayo's handler a couple of years ago. Tony, Bill Plaschke of the L.A. Times believes USC hammered basketball to save the football team from a similar fate. Does that sound logical to you?"

... (and after Tony K's response saying that it makes sense to distance Pete Carroll from the basketball mess, and discussing whether $1000 cash in an envelope is worse than what is alleged with the football program) ...

"But the athletic department at SC deserves to be hammered, and that means the Athletic Director, Mike Garrett, deserves to be hammered. ...
SC deserved both sides of the house to be put in order here, or else."

 

[MaxBuck]

All fine and good, but please tell me how punishing players and coaches who had nothing to do with the situation is a just response?

... They can get their heads out of their butts to investigate basketball, but football continues to get a free pass (and Range Rovers) from their AD's office? Don't they think they can control the football team?

Excellent examples of rhetorical questions.

 

[buckeyesin07]

USC's self-imposed sanctions are nowhere near severe enough

USC would like you to believe that when it self-imposed sanctions on its basketball program last Sunday, it dropped the hammer on its troubled hoops program.
A ban on postseason play this season, a loss of one scholarship this year and the next, restrictions on recruiting ... It was a litany of wrist slaps that the Trojans hope will be viewed as equitable punishment for the numerous NCAA violations committed during star guard O.J. Mayo's one year in Troy.
"When we've done something wrong," USC athletic director Mike Garrett said, "we have an obligation to do something about it and that is exactly what we are doing here."
What Garrett and the Trojans also did was take everyone, including the members of the NCAA's Committee on Infractions (COI), for fools.
If there was ever a basketball program that deserved to have the book thrown at it it was USC under former coach Tim Floyd. Instead, the Trojans tossed themselves a few pages and hoped no one would notice the difference. It was a response that is likely to be judged harshly by the COI when it reviews the Trojans case down the line. The COI hates cheaters, but it hates schools that don't take cheating seriously even more, and that is the signal USC sent with its soft sanctions.

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USC's self-imposed basketball sanctions are not severe enough - George Dohrmann - SI.com

 

[Taosman]

SC judging itself and imposing penalties is the definition of lack of institutional control.

 

[methomps]

USC's self-imposed basketball sanctions are not severe enough - George Dohrmann - SI.com

If there was ever a basketball program that deserved to have the book thrown at it it was USC under former coach Tim Floyd.

What a load of crap. So let me get this straight. Mr. Dohrmann thinks that the violations that occurred with SC Hoops was the worst in the history of NCAA bball?

USC, not Baylor where head coach Dave Bliss oversigned a class by two players and decided to solve that problem by bringing in two of them as walk-ons while secretly paying all of their expenses? Where things went south with one of the two eventually murdering the other one, which Bliss tried to coverup by having teammates portray the victim as a drug dealer who was killed in a drug deal?

SC hoops was worse than that? GTFO

 

[BB73]

What a load of crap. So let me get this straight. Mr. Dohrmann thinks that the violations that occurred with SC Hoops was the worst in the history of NCAA bball?

USC, not Baylor where head coach Dave Bliss oversigned a class by two players and decided to solve that problem by bringing in two of them as walk-ons while secretly paying all of their expenses? Where things went south with one of the two eventually murdering the other one, which Bliss tried to coverup by having teammates portray the victim as a drug dealer who was killed in a drug deal?

SC hoops was worse than that? GTFO

Feel free to also talk about TSUN hoops in the '90s.

 

[Muck]

Feel free to also talk about TSUN hoops in the '90s.

Taking the part of the accomplice in the crowd surreptitiously helping out the hustler running the shell game eh 73?

 

[Dryden]

Just off the top of my head over the past 20 years, I'd put Baylor, St. Bonaventure, Arizona St, and Michigan ahead of USC on the scandal-o-meter.

In men's basketball.

 

[TheIronColonel]

Yes, just because those violations aren't the worst in the history of the sport, we should pay attention to this ridiculous hyperbole instead of asking the pertinent question of whether or not these sanctions are severe enough.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE]YouTube - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.[/ame]

 

[LitlBuck]

Just off the top of my head over the past 20 years, I'd put Baylor, St. Bonaventure, Arizona St, and Michigan ahead of USC on the scandal-o-meter.

In men's basketball.

You might want to give a little bit of love to UNLV but that probably was right around 20 years ago.

 

[methomps]

Yes, just because those violations aren't the worst in the history of the sport, we should pay attention to this ridiculous hyperbole instead of asking the pertinent question of whether or not these sanctions are severe enough.

YouTube - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

I apologize for sidetracking a discussion that had a whopping zero posts in the 5 hours prior to mine. And I further apologize that my post, which responded directly to an article quoted in the thread, is of no relevance to the question at hand, since determining how severe these violations are is of no help in deciding whether the sanctions were severe enough (such as by comparing the violations and penalties to prior cases in history and their penalties). I conclude by apologizing for breaking the time-honored BP tradition of ignoring ridiculous comments by the media and making no mention of them.

 

[BB73]

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I apologize for sidetracking a discussion that had a whopping zero posts in the 5 hours prior to mine. And I further apologize that my post, which responded directly to an article quoted in the thread, is of no relevance to the question at hand, since determining how severe these violations are is of no help in deciding whether the sanctions were severe enough (such as by comparing the violations and penalties to prior cases in history and their penalties). I conclude by apologizing for breaking the time-honored BP tradition of ignoring ridiculous comments by the media and making no mention of them.

Dammit, methomps! You broke another one - these things aren't cheap, you know.

 

[BB73]

Taking the part of the accomplice in the crowd surreptitiously helping out the hustler running the shell game eh 73?

Not at all - it just seemed like a shame to me to miss out on a legitimate opportunity to cast aspersions on the TSUN athletic department.

I've posted in this thread frequently, and as far as I can recall, this is the first time somebody thought I was trying to help defend USC's athletic department.

 

[methomps]

Not at all - it just seemed like a shame to me to miss out on a legitimate opportunity to cast aspersions on the TSUN athletic department.

I've posted in this thread frequently, and as far as I can recall, this is the first time somebody thought I was trying to help defend USC's athletic department.

I personally think the attacks on your character are alarming and propose we lock this thread until people learn to post more responsibly. By the way, can you cash the checks I give you in a more timely fashion so that I can keep my checkbook balanced?

 

[methomps]

Err, that was supposed to be a PM. Please disregard.