NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

[Saw31]

While I can't deny that someone CAN prove it, the important thing is whether NCAA CAN PROVE IT. Remember that the NCAA doesn't have any subponea powers. Unless Bush voluntarily talks to NCAA (which he has no reason to), and unless other sources voluntarily talk to NCAA, the NCAA can't prove anything.

IIRC, there's a lawsuit on the horizon...The NCAA won't need subpoena power if everything is revealed under oath during the lawsuit...

(If there is anything to reveal, that is. I'm with-holding my judgement at this point)

 

[Oh8ch]

the important thing is whether NCAA CAN PROVE IT.

You also have to ask whether the NCAA WANTS to prove it.

I am not talking about Left Coast favoritism, just the simple fact that the NCAA does not want their National Champions to be tarnished any more than they wanted it when OSU was in the hot seat. They will certainly dig, and those facts that are buried near the surface will be unearthed and acted upon. But it is in nobody's best interest to dig too deeply - not for the sake of a 'level playing field'.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Says the fellow ending a sentence with a preposition.

you should go to http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/022703.htm to learn about the difference between prepositions, phrasal verbs, and particles. just because a word looks like a preposition does not mean it acts like a preposition. for each word there is a form and a function.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

you should go to http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/022703.htm to learn about the difference between prepositions, phrasal verbs, and particles. just because a word looks like a preposition does not mean it acts like a preposition. for each word there is a form and a function.

I stand corrected.

 

[Oh8ch]

Where is the high level domain name qualifier at?

 

[BrutusBobcat]

IIRC, there's a lawsuit on the horizon...The NCAA won't need subpoena power if everything is revealed under oath during the lawsuit...

(If there is anything to reveal, that is. I'm with-holding my judgement at this point)

This is a good point. Without the Salyers lawsuit, there's no doubt that the NCAA wouldn't have ever known anything was amiss in our b-ball program. Even then, most of the investigating was done with the cooperation of OSU.

It's generally in the best interests of a member institution to cooperate, regardless of whether they are guilty or not. Failure to do so will mean bigger penalties if the NCAA finds something.

As far as the willingness of the NCAA -- it's not THEIR champion, it's the BCS's champion from 2004. The current champ is still Texas. Also, being the defending champs didn't keep the NCAA from running our football program through a colonoscopy. There's no "good ol' boy" arrangements here. If there's smoke, they'll dig. Perhaps I am being naive in my assessment of how our team was investigated, but it sure seemed to me like they were digging as deeply as they were able, and came up empty.

If they find something, they'll deliver penalties. Notice that there are missing championship b-ball banners in the VCA and up in Ann Arbor.

The NCAA may not have subpoena powers, but they sure can sit current athletes down and ask them anything they want (just ask our 2003 squad or their parents), the athletic staffs anything they want, and the compliance people anything they want. There's also the matter of public records and the eyewitness reports of neighbors (I'm speaking of Bush's parents' home, here).

Right now, I sure wouldn't want to be the AD at either USC or Oklahoma for about the next 6-12 months. It's unfortunate, and no one should take any glee from this. Again, for the sake of college football, I hope that both situations are cleared up quickly, and that the schools in question are exonerated, much how we were (eventually).

 

[lvbuckeye]

ot: no. however, as a self-described grammarian, you should be ashamed of yourself for not easily finding the two mistakes. also, a lack of capitalization is a matter of style, as long as the lower caps are intended. the ellipses, though misused in form, i won't quibble about.

actually, i'm much more of a vocabulary and spelling nazi. hence my quibble with the use of 'of coarse' instead of 'of course.'

 

[sandgk]

actually, i'm much more of a vocabulary and spelling nazi. hence my quibble with the use of 'of coarse' instead of 'of course.'

Some might call this a "rediculous" obsession. (Which I'll admit is my pet peeve).

 

[jwinslow]

Still not an sc lapdog, methomps? 'Keep your distance' & Pete Carroll is a new pairing. I'm talking merely about his wide open, invite everyone practices/program...

Keep your distance

Pete Carroll tries to protect his players -- and program. (Getty Images)
Agents and their minions are a plague, trying to get their hooks into players. Their insidious tactics threaten programs. And though the rule is simple -- don't take cash -- it's not always easy to follow, Dennis Dodd says. Full story

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

You also have to ask whether the NCAA WANTS to prove it.

I am not talking about Left Coast favoritism, just the simple fact that the NCAA does not want their National Champions to be tarnished any more than they wanted it when OSU was in the hot seat. They will certainly dig, and those facts that are buried near the surface will be unearthed and acted upon. But it is in nobody's best interest to dig too deeply - not for the sake of a 'level playing field'.

"the NCAA got so mad at Kentucky, the put Cleveland State on probation for another two years"

- Jerry Tarkanian

 

[methomps]

Still not an sc lapdog, methomps? 'Keep your distance' & Pete Carroll is a new pairing. I'm talking merely about his wide open, invite everyone practices/program...

Keep your distance

Pete Carroll tries to protect his players -- and program. (Getty Images)
Agents and their minions are a plague, trying to get their hooks into players. Their insidious tactics threaten programs. And though the rule is simple -- don't take cash -- it's not always easy to follow, Dennis Dodd says. Full story

I don't see how that article is a puff piece for SC. It basically highlights the problem SC is facing (agents) and then talks about how coaches at other programs are tackling it.

As far as this thing with PC and the sword, that is the teaser for the story. There is a 90% chance Dodd had nothing to do with that.

 

[sandgk]

Isn't this part of article in error?

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Maybe Bush was the tipping point. Couldn't the family have waited a year until Reggie went pro? Some bank somewhere could have loaned the family money based on Bush's future earnings.[/FONT]

Hell if it was that simple Michaels, or Ornstein, could have simply called himself a Savings and Loan.

 

[methomps]

Isn't this part of article in error?



Hell if it was that simple Michaels, or Ornstein, could have simply called himself a Savings and Loan.

Yes, Dodd is wrong.

 

[osugrad21]

November 15, 2006

11 Months Later
USC compliance officials are interviewing football players this week regarding recruiting dinners held at Papadakis Taverna restaurant to determine if any violations took place.
According to sources, the end result is football recruits will no longer be taken to the San Pedro restaurant, which is owned by former USC player John Papadakis.
Concerns were originally raised last December, when the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Papadakis gives recruits a speech about the Trojans' cardinal and gold colors and closes the meal by urging them to declare, ``I want to be a Trojan.??
But the compliance office is just now interviewing football players nearly a year later. Faculty athletic representative Noel Ragsdale and associate provost for athletic compliance Ellen Ferris are meeting with players about trips to the restaurant.

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[ScriptOhio]

I'm kind of surprised that the NCAA investigation doesn't seem to be hurting USC in recruiting. The have a pretty good list of commitments so far:

http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=71

As I recall we lost out on a couple "blue chip" recruits (at least in part) due the NCAA investigation involving Maurice Clarett, etc. and potential sanctions. Has anyone heard of a recruit passing on USC due to the NCAA investigation?