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NCAA investigating Tressel's days at Y-State

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This is all conjecture on my part - but it would seem to me that this is merely part of Geiger "most thorough investigation in the history of the NCAA".

Why not go back to where ESPN alleged the origin of JT's fall - at YSU - and use that as your starting point for your investigation?

If ESPN wants to use JT's behavior during his time at YSU as a precendent and reasonable cause for his alleged behavior at OSU - an NCAA investigation that declares him 'not guilty' damns ESPN further by using their logic against themselves.
 
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I totally understand Clarity. I don't want to keep this issue going without some manuevering room either.

I thought it was best to allow some people to know what is going on in some of the investigation but hopefully not having someone swoop in and use it against myself and BP.

From what I have gathered and to agree with what Dihard said about putting together a puzzle, the NCAA is going to interview the former YSU assistants in order to try and put a case against Tressel together, not against OSU per say. Even if the Statute of Limitations has passed on YSU's violations, the NCAA can piece together a pattern of rules violations and use it in a case against Tressel and other coaches involved in any violations at Ohio State only. The only thing I am worried about is a possible small amount of booster payments to a handful of football players.

Remember, the NCAA is it's own governing body which means they can do pretty much whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate federal or state anti-trust laws. Now if OSU, mainly Gieger, didn't have any knowledge of any of this then the University can only be hit with a small probation and not anything close to a death penalty. It's my opinion that Geiger doesn't know of any of this so I think OSU may only lose scholarships and get hit with a 2-5 year probationary period and allow postseason play. Again, this is only my opinion.

As far as academic violations goes, I wouldn't worry at all about that.

Understand that I am not trying to stir the pot, so to speak, nor am I trying to create panic. Like I said in the beginning, I just wanted to clue those of you into some of the things going on.
 
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GoofyBuckeye said:
I know that Mili, but what you don't realize is that Tressel wasn't cleared, the statute of limitations simply expired. He can't get into any trouble at Y-State, but the NCAA does have the right to gather that information and use it in a case against him now.

so yeah, it is alarming.

I should clarify..they can't use the info in the case and create a punishment based on that info, but they can use it as proof of a long standing problem and not just one or two incidents.
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Good god..... Why dont you use your head for something other than growing hair? All you have to do is look up the official findings of the NCAA regarding this particular case.
I’m so sick and tired of buckeye fans and the media who fail to exercise the most basic of initiative in doing some basic research. Tressel was not involved in any way, shape or form. The booster you talk about was a freaking member of the board of trustee’s for the University.



Man, for crying out loud! Know what the f*** you are talking about before you start spewing 3rd hand information!!



Legally, the NCAA couldn’t use squat from his time at YSU unless there is a direct link between YSU and OhioState. There isn’t so who ever is telling you this crap doesn’t know a damn thing. What happened to YSU is not germane in any way to the investigation at OhioState!!!!
 
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Rob, you a lawyer? Are you a former coach of Tressel? Do or have you ever participated in a booster payment to an football player at any university? Have you broken into the files at Youngstown State and read the un-released documents covering the NCAA investigation there? Are you associated with Monus or Isaacs of Youngsotwn? Have you broken into the NCAA files and read the un-released documents concerning the Y-State case? Are you a member of my family?

if you answered no to any or all of these questions then you need to shut the hell up and shove a corkscrew straight into your head. You hearin me?

I can understand if you are afraid of what might happen at OSU, ROB, but don't take out your petty temper tantrums on those in the loop.

to clarify what went on at Y-State, the NCAA got tip that something was going on there. They came in and Y-State did it's own investigation finding no wrong doing and the NCAA was satisfied. Years later, the NCAA got tipped again to new evidence showing a lot of violations but the statute of limitations had passed. Y-State did it's own investigation again and found Monus had given money to Isaacs. Monus was the head of trustees at Y-State. Y-State and Tressel was found to have lack of institutional control by the NCAA but no penalty could be handed down.
 
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BuckeyeRob said:
Good god..... Why dont you use your head for something other than growing hair? All you have to do is look up the official findings of the NCAA regarding this particular case.
I’m so sick and tired of buckeye fans and the media who fail to exercise the most basic of initiative in doing some basic research. Tressel was not involved in any way, shape or form. The booster you talk about was a freaking member of the board of trustee’s for the University.



Man, for crying out loud! Know what the f*** you are talking about before you start spewing 3rd hand information!!



Legally, the NCAA couldn’t use squat from his time at YSU unless there is a direct link between YSU and OhioState. There isn’t so who ever is telling you this crap doesn’t know a damn thing. What happened to YSU is not germane in any way to the investigation at OhioState!!!!
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calm down spaz
 
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to clarify what went on at Y-State, the NCAA got tip that something was going on there. They came in and Y-State did it's own investigation finding no wrong doing and the NCAA was satisfied. Years later, the NCAA got tipped again to new evidence showing a lot of violations but the statute of limitations had passed. Y-State did it's own investigation again and found Monus had given money to Isaacs. Monus was the head of trustees at Y-State. Y-State and Tressel was found to have lack of institutional control by the NCAA but no penalty could be handed down.
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and that has nothing to do with anything at osu. and the lack of institutional control was a result of monus being on the board of trustees, not anything that tressel did. in fact there are about 20 different times that issac is directly quoted as saying that he and monus made sure to hide the gifts from tressel, which still, has absolutely nothing to do with OSU.
 
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GoofyBuckeye said:
t-steele, if you read my earlier posts I said exactly that. The Y-State problems have nothing to do with Ohio State, but, it can have something to do with Tressel individualy
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The NCAA cannot hand out individual penalties to coaches, regardless of what they find. It doesnt matter what Tressel did at YSU, regardless of the fact that isaac stated he had no knowledge. There is nothing that can be done about it.
 
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Sure, the NCAA can hand out penalties to coaches. They can bar them from ever coaching in D1-A or wherever again or give them a suspension.

My point is, and I'm not being stupid about any of this, is that the NCAA is looking back at Y-State to find a pattern with Tressel, not Ohio State. They have every right, being it's own governing body, to investigate anything they want. I would think that most of you would find it refreshing that the NCAA is focusing more on Tressel than on Ohio State.

Believe me people, I know more about what is going on than I am letting on in here. Bash me or do whatever you want. It still won't change the fact that this is all going on as we speak.
 
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GoofyBuckeye said:
Believe me people, I know more about what is going on than I am letting on in here. Bash me or do whatever you want. It still won't change the fact that this is all going on as we speak.
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Hell bro keep posting...every person in here has the option of believing or discarding your posts. Personally, I like all the different angles from different sources.

If you do get frustrated, just PM the stuff:biggrin:
 
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GoofyBuckeye said:
I figured some people would, OSUgrad, but unfortunately, there are those that cannot handle even a thought of wrong doing and choose to smack the speaker rather than listen with an open mind and go from there.
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Too many shmucks coming on boards to report shit, without being able to provide any credibility,i.e. my friends has a mother, type of reporting. What some don't seem to realize is that you're a very reliable source on alot of college football fronts. Keep bringing the info Goof.
 
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