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NCAA Basketball Investigation/Lawsuit Thread (merged)

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he posted it over on BN. He is an OSU insider, so he would have a good feel for what might be happening. This is not that surprising, as jotis stated, I was just passing along his thoughts on the matter.
 
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I have been trying to not vent my spleen toward O'Brien, but I find it is no longer possible.

It is just so sad that we all thought so highly of O'Brien, in great part because of the ethics he wore on his sleeve, and that he took advantage of our trust the way he did.

How very odd that O'Brien pretends that he is the one who will determine if he returns to coaching, due to what he has learned about college sports since being fired. Which top tier program would hire him knowing what we all know now?

The very fact that he believes he ran "a very, very clean" program, when he very well knew about the Salyers lawsuit and made this payment to a potential player (no matter what he says, he was still hopeful to reverse the NCAA ruling and this was a potential player), tells us a lot about O'Brien the man and his values and a lot about why no respectable program will ever want him again.

I can't work out what hurts O'Brien more, the train wreck that his coaching had become or the success that Matta shows is possible for a good coach at Ohio State.

Thanks Obie, if you hadn't been such a putz we would never have had Matta.
 
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bucknuts44820 said:
At times I have felt the same way.
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I don't feel that way at times...I feel that way about Obie all of the time.

His reckless decisions have jeopardized the reputation of my Alma Mater. His decisions added fuel to a fire that was started by another dimwit with zero regards for the University. Call it what you want...pressure to succeed in the eyes of a harsh fanbase, throw in the humanitarian spin, whatever...it reeks and does not belong in Columbus.

I don't want to hear that other programs do illegal things...they are insignificant to me. Jim O'Brien made his bed and now he does not want to sleep in it.

Too bad Obie...you gambled with something I love and now I have zero sympathy for you.
 
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i dont know what to think, on one hand you guys are dead on. but i personally believe he was doomed to fail. if you look at the situation he came into it was ugly. but, he made his own deciscions and you must live with those things you do and face the results good/bad of your choices..
 
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Steve19 said:
How very odd that O'Brien pretends that he is the one who will determine if he returns to coaching, due to what he has learned about college sports since being fired.
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I wonder what it is Obie thinks he has learned?
To better cover his trail next time when paying off recruits?
To give his assistants more leeway so they can cheat even more?
I dont care to ever see him coach a college team again.
 
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osugrad21 said:
I don't feel that way at times...I feel that way about Obie all of the time.

His reckless decisions have jeopardized the reputation of my Alma Mater. His decisions added fuel to a fire that was started by another dimwit with zero regards for the University. Call it what you want...pressure to succeed in the eyes of a harsh fanbase, throw in the humanitarian spin, whatever...it reeks and does not belong in Columbus.

I don't want to hear that other programs do illegal things...they are insignificant to me. Jim O'Brien made his bed and now he does not want to sleep in it.

Too bad Obie...you gambled with something I love and now I have zero sympathy for you.
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This sums up my opinion also.
 
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I don't feel that way at times...I feel that way about Obie all of the time.

His reckless decisions have jeopardized the reputation of my Alma Mater. His decisions added fuel to a fire that was started by another dimwit with zero regards for the University. Call it what you want...pressure to succeed in the eyes of a harsh fanbase, throw in the humanitarian spin, whatever...it reeks and does not belong in Columbus.

I don't want to hear that other programs do illegal things...they are insignificant to me. Jim O'Brien made his bed and now he does not want to sleep in it.

Too bad Obie...you gambled with something I love and now I have zero sympathy for you.
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Great Post Award.
 
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1/15/06

When the hearing begins on Feb. 3, the Buckeyes will have nine regular-season games remaining. NCAA spokesman Kent Barrett said the committee strives to hand down decisions in three to four weeks, though the caseload is heavy right now. Five weeks and one day after the two-day hearing is scheduled to end, the NCAA will select the 65-team field for the NCAA Tournament.

Asked if the decision still could be pending on Selection Sunday, Barrett said the committee "is aware that there's a basketball tournament." So it appears unlikely that the Buckeyes could be waiting for an NCAA bid while wondering if they'll be eligible to accept it.
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1/18/06

NCAA INVESTIGATION

OSU appears to be in clear for return to postseason

Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH




If Ohio State’s participation in the NCAA men’s basketball tournament this year rests in the hands of an NCAA committee, it more likely will be the tournament selection committee than the infractions committee.

In other words, the Buckeyes appear to control their own tournament destiny with half the season left to prove themselves.

Neither side would comment yesterday on the NCAA’s case against Ohio State as they prepare for the university’s rescheduled hearing before the infractions committee Feb. 3-4 in Chicago.

But the timetable of the delayed process indicates that any appeal by the university in the wake of sanctions would not be heard until after the 65-team field for the NCAA Tournament is announced March 12. That would eliminate the possibility of the Buckeyes being banned from the tournament for a second consecutive year.

Ohio State (12-2) is ranked No. 19 entering a game against Wisconsin tonight in Value City Arena.

Ohio State said before the original hearing Dec. 9 that it did not plan to impose further penalties against the program, which it already had banned from the 2005 postseason and docked two scholarships this season.

The university imposed those penalties because of violations alleged to have occurred under former coach Jim O’Brien, who was fired in June 2004 after admitting he loaned $6,000 to the family of a recruit.

The Dec. 9 hearing in Indianapolis was postponed after attorneys for O’Brien and former assistant coach Paul Biancardi, who also is implicated in the violations, argued that their ability to defend their clients was impeded.

Ohio State had refused to provide them with documents that identified all persons alleged to be involved in the nine violations. The university, citing federal privacy law, concealed some names in the documents.

NCAA spokesman Kent Barrett said that, on average, penalties are announced three to five weeks after the hearing.

A source familiar with the case, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that when the original hearing was postponed, the NCAA told OSU that, despite the delay, the university will still be notified of its punishment by March 1.

NCAA bylaws give a school 15 days to appeal penalties to the infractions appeals committee. If appealed, penalties are "stayed pending the infractions appeals committee’s decision," according to the committee’s policies and procedures guide. The appeals committee’s decision is final.
Ohio State has admitted to eight of the nine violations the NCAA charged it with in August.

More penalties beyond those the university already has imposed are expected, but they are not expected to affect the current team or future teams beyond the possibility of more forfeited scholarships. If another tournament ban were levied, however, and Ohio State lost its appeal, the ban would be imposed for the 2007 postseason.

When coach Thad Matta signed one of the nation’s top recruiting classes for 2006 in November, he gave each of the five prospects a letter signed by himself, OSU president Karen Holbrook and athletics director Gene Smith that would release them from their letters of intent if Ohio State is banned from the 2007 NCAA Tournament.

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