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Movie: The Lady in the Water

nothing is ever going to compare to the original Clerks (my fav movie of all time). I thought it was going to be dumb (in a funny way) but Kevin Smith added some great dialogue just like in the first. I loved the scene where Randal argues Star Wars vs Lord of the Rings and makes the guy puke :lol: sure some of it was cheesy but who cares... not as good as Clerks but better than Jersey Girl :tongue2:

for those who liked Clerks... check out the DVD "Clerks X"... it has all kinds of great extras including the Documentary "The Snowball Effect: The Making of Clerks."

http://www.jayandsilentbob.com/clx10andvdsi.html
 
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I saw it, I liked it. A lot.

Now, there's an issue at play that I see as alarmingly prevalent when it comes to Shyamalan's work. His first major release, The Sixth Sense, was so highly lauded (six Oscar nominations) and so widely publicized and pored over by critics and the public that topping it was effectively impossible. Despite that seemingly apparent reality, we still tend to compare everything he does to that first amazing triumph. His own fault, I suppose. Being that he writes as well as directs all of his major projects, a heightened level of onus is put on him (as I see it) by those same critics and moviegoers, and he is thusly blamed/credited for what works and does not work in his films more than most directors. Moreover, his work is often so weighty and dramatic that most people end up completely polarized on whether they like or dislike the movie in question. A movie like Lady in the Water for instance, while flip, punchy and very funny at times, still relies heavily on a plot chock full of symbolism and thick human drama. If you're the type of person who can't handle the juxtaposition, then there really is no hope for you and this film living happily ever after.

I imagine it's a very rare thing that someone comes out of a Shyamalan movie offhandedly saying, "Eh. It was alright." That's not how he appears to operate. I think he knows how much of an 'all-or-nothing' proposition his brand of cinema tends to be, and I don't think he cares much. The overriding theme with most movies that are successful beyond the mainstream critics and the box office numbers is that if it's any good at all, there are going to be lots of people that really don't like it. Were it me in his position, I would actually take a considerable amount of solace in the fact that there were droves of people who weren't 'digging it'. Also, the fact that so many people trust and admire him as a filmmaker is a huge reason why there are so many equally enthusiastic detractors. I know all about contrarians, because I frequently am one myself.

But that's not really what I'm getting at (if anyone is still listening). I enjoyed Lady in the Water a great deal because it practically dares you to be cynical. I found myself at several points saying, "Gee, that's kind of unrealistic." But as soon as I began drifting away, it would sort of pull me back in, smack me upside the head and remind me to not take everything so seriously and enjoy the story. And it is a very fun story, I think. The movie itself is totally surreal at times--to be truthful, it's really not a horror at all, but a fantasy. If you approach it as such, I think it's a very easily enjoyable movie. The cast is really quite good, the writing is crisp, and despite people saying that it's slow in the early minutes...I don't know. I didn't really see that.

What I really don't understand are comments saying that it was "one of the worst movies I have ever saw." Grammarian gripes notwithstanding, this is one of those tendencies that some people have that drives me right up the fucking wall. If this really is one of the worst movies you "ever saw," then the breadth of your film knowledge is frighteningly narrow. Narrow enough, frankly, that you should probably just keep those sort of absurdly hyperbolic comments inside that head of yours. The simple truth of the matter - and I can say this completely free of bias - is that this movie, while not necessarly built to please or to aid in the widespread consumption of overpriced popcorn, can not be among the worst ever made. The production quality and the cast alone elevate it out of the realm of the Batman and Robins of the world. Saying something like, "I personally did not care for this movie," would be reasonable. "Worst movie I ever saw," ... not so much. Although I did find it telling (and, at this point, I think we all know to which post I'm referring) that part of this particular critic's issue was that they "laughed through the whole movie," as though they believe that wasn't Shyamalan's intention. I laughed a ton during this movie. I also found Giamatti's character development extremely moving, despite having been so brief, and the mystic nature of the primary storyline, well...I thought it was very satisfying.

Okay, that's enough. I should probably thin all of that out considerably, but I'm much too lazy. Key point, for anyone interested, is that this film is decidedly not a horror. There are thriller elements, but it is probably 1% thriller, 9% mystery, and 90% fantasy. It's a fine excuse to (as the characters are eventually forced to do) crank the skepticism down, the suspension of disbelief up, and pretend that you're just watching a movie.
 
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That is the work of studio marketers alone, and this marketing is completely separate from the actual works MNS is submitting for your viewing pleasure. He is not a "horror" director, and Disney/WB have disappointed a lot of movie-goers by hyping his movies as horror. Like I said before, the only way to enjoy his movies is to go into them without expectations.

(Full disclosure: I am a big fan of "Unbreakable", "The Village" and "Signs")

Listen to Baybuck!

It's NOT a horror movie!
It's a fractured fairytale! :tongue2:
 
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MNS's problem is that after one movie, his schtick was not only old, but predictable. Not only did the Village suck, but it is frighteningly easy to figure out the "twist" in the first 5 minutes and then you are forced to watch another 1:25 of crap to see what you already know is coming. I have zero interest in any of his future movies.
 
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Not only did the Village suck, but it is frighteningly easy to figure out the "twist" in the first 5 minutes and then you are forced to watch another 1:25 of crap to see what you already know is coming. I have zero interest in any of his future movies.
I wouldn't quite say the first 5 minutes, however, I will also admit I did not figure it out till it was revealed, but thats probably do in part because I try not to over think during movies, I just sit, enjoy, and listen to what they're telling me, because then the surprises aren't ruined!

For me I've been a big fan of MNS' work, I loved Signs and personally believe it to be his best, and really enjoyed The Village (except I too really wanted the monsters to be real, however, I really enjoyed the plot twist) and of course The Sixth Sense was great, Unbreakable didn't do much for me when I first saw it, but I also forget alot of the movie, so I'll need to see it again. Anyways I'm just getting at that it is gonna be tough for me not to want to see Lady in the Water... it looks good from the previews, so I'll just have to wait for someone to convince me not to, besides just saying it sucked (I've heard this already, plenty of times), I'm looking more for why you didn't like it.
 
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I wouldn't quite say the first 5 minutes, however, I will also admit I did not figure it out till it was revealed, but thats probably do in part because I try not to over think during movies, I just sit, enjoy, and listen to what they're telling me, because then the surprises aren't ruined!

Sorry :lol: Didn't mean to sound insulting.

I think my point was something akin to that of vr above, meaning that I went into the movie seeing if I could figure it out, and it didn't take long given that fact.
 
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That is the work of studio marketers alone, and this marketing is completely separate from the actual works MNS is submitting for your viewing pleasure. He is not a "horror" director, and Disney/WB have disappointed a lot of movie-goers by hyping his movies as horror. Like I said before, the only way to enjoy his movies is to go into them without expectations.

(Full disclosure: I am a big fan of "Unbreakable", "The Village" and "Signs")
How in God's name could you be a fan of The Village? Seriously the worst movie of all time. Had the plot figured out in the first 20 minutes.
 
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How in God's name could you be a fan of The Village? Seriously the worst movie of all time. Had the plot figured out in the first 20 minutes.

I didn't go into it expecting a "twist" movie (the ending is more of a revelation that puts the movie into context), so I just enjoyed the story for what it was, and I thought the acting was excellent: something about that blind girl and her fearlessness really resonated with me.

And like VRB said, if you really think it's the "worst of all time", you haven't seen many movies.
 
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1. Sixth Sense - very good
2. Unbreakable - extremely underrated
3. Village - I liked it, but the ending was weak
4. Signs - a mixture of great scenes and downright laughable ones
5. Water - won't be seeing it until it's on DVD for $1.
 
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Seriously? Or do you mean the old cartoon version with all the songs?

How about Mariah Carey in "Glitter"?
I hated "Fellowship of the Ring" or whatever it's called. 3 hours of people walking with no ending. The LotR scene from Clerks II summed it up pretty well for me and about half the theater I was in. I will never see Glitter. "Hero" with Jet Li was pretty bad too.
 
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