Most overrated NFL player..

[tibor75]

First of all, I believe Vick is greatly overrated, as I do all "versatile" quarterbacks (more on this in a second). However, to base your opinion on his fantasy football value doesn't make much sense. What makes a great fantasy football player is not always what makes a great NFL player.

The perfect example of this is Daunte Culpepper--a great player to have on your fantasy team, but he has yet to get the Vikings anywhere near the Super Bowl and probably never will. Or you can flip it around: Troy Aikman was a great NFL quarterback, but as a fantasy player he was average at best.


Now, I don't know who is the most overrated player in the NFL, but I can tell you the most overrated group: the "versatile" quarterbacks. I am sick of how the media lauds these guys and tells us ad naseum how they are revolutionizing the game. Problem with this argument is that not one of them has lead their team to the Super Bowl. Sure, your versatile quarterback might get you a lot of coverage on ESPiN and he might sell a lot of tickets because of the exciting plays, but it is the traditional, drop-back quarterback who is going to get you to the Super Bowl.

I don't know how you are drawing these conclusions about Culpepper. The reason the Vikings aren't going anywhere has nothing to do with their offense. Has yet to get them NEAR the super bowl? Uh, does the NFC championship game count?

Furthermore, Vick in terms of "versatile" is in a class by himself. McNabb and Culpepper have versitility, but certainly not more than Steve Young did in his day or Fran Tarkington did in his day. Vick is only in his 3rd year of starting. What had Manning done in 3 years? Same thing...NOTHING.

 

[buckeyegrad]

I don't know how you are drawing these conclusions about Culpepper. The reason the Vikings aren't going anywhere has nothing to do with their offense. Has yet to get them NEAR the super bowl? Uh, does the NFC championship game count? .

Maybe I overstated the case, but look at the numbers:

In 2000, when the Vikings went to the NFC Championship game they were on a downward slide. After starting the season at 11-2, they lost their last 3 regular season games. However, 11-5 was good enough for them to earn a first-round bye that year. They beat the Saints in their first game, a team known for collapsing in the playoffs and who was coming off a brutal game with the Rams the prior week, and then got destroyed by the Giants 41-13 in the Championship game. A Giants team that would have its ass handed to them by the Ravens in the Super Bowl.

Since the 2000 season, the Vikings have gone 27-34 without a playoff appearance. Culpepper has had his share of injuries during this time, but that could be attributed to his style of play.

 

[Savante]

I don't know how you are drawing these conclusions about Culpepper. The reason the Vikings aren't going anywhere has nothing to do with their offense. Has yet to get them NEAR the super bowl? Uh, does the NFC championship game count?

Furthermore, Vick in terms of "versatile" is in a class by himself. McNabb and Culpepper have versitility, but certainly not more than Steve Young did in his day or Fran Tarkington did in his day. Vick is only in his 3rd year of starting. What had Manning done in 3 years? Same thing...NOTHING.

When you're right, tibor, you're really right. Anyone who watches Vikings games can see that it's the defense that's the issue. Culpepper throws for 5 TD's, and they lose because the opposing QB (whoever it is) throws for 6. Their D (especially that secondary) is awful, and it's only starting to get better. Seriously.

Vick overrated? OK now. His stats make him underrated, because stats don't measure impact on the game. TJ Duckett runs for 4 TDs last week because of Vick. Teams key in on him and he still makes plays. He's a top 5 QB, skills wise, and in a few years, I believe he'll have a Super Bowl or two. That team overall is NOT that good. The line is OK, the backs are OK, the receivers? OK. Vick is what makes them good.

Warren Sapp is one of the five or six most dominant DTs of all time. Consistently TRIPLE TEAMED and he still had a ton of sacks for a DT. People forget that for a DT in TB's old scheme, 6 sacks is a lot. He was awesome in his time.

Honestly overrated? Chris Hovan, Clinton Portis, Ruben Droughns, Jake Plummer.

 

[biggsj6030]

Michael Vick's boyfriend?

No, just a fan who knows what the falcons are trying to do this year.hahaha

 

[Bucklion]

Of course I think Kellen Winslow II qualifies too, am I right, Savante?

When you're right, tibor, you're really right. Anyone who watches Vikings games can see that it's the defense that's the issue. Culpepper throws for 5 TD's, and they lose because the opposing QB (whoever it is) throws for 6. Their D (especially that secondary) is awful, and it's only starting to get better. Seriously.

Vick overrated? OK now. His stats make him underrated, because stats don't measure impact on the game. TJ Duckett runs for 4 TDs last week because of Vick. Teams key in on him and he still makes plays. He's a top 5 QB, skills wise, and in a few years, I believe he'll have a Super Bowl or two. That team overall is NOT that good. The line is OK, the backs are OK, the receivers? OK. Vick is what makes them good.

Warren Sapp is one of the five or six most dominant DTs of all time. Consistently TRIPLE TEAMED and he still had a ton of sacks for a DT. People forget that for a DT in TB's old scheme, 6 sacks is a lot. He was awesome in his time.

Honestly overrated? Chris Hovan, Clinton Portis, Ruben Droughns, Jake Plummer.

 

[Savante]

Of course I think Kellen Winslow II qualifies too, am I right, Savante?

Bastard! You got me, bro, but I still maintain he would've had a big impact on the season had he not been hurt. It teaches me to bet on my team. I think he'll be just fine.. he was only a rookie and he only played in two games. Hard to judge him from that, you know?

 

[Jagdaddy]

I didn't think Jake Plummer was rated highly enough to be overrated. If you want an overrated Bronco, look no further than Champ Bailey. Opposing teams do not seem to avoid him and he's been getting burned all year.

As for Vick, he's good, but is overrated only because the hype surrounding him is so ludicrous. When announcers talk about him it's like a scene from "the Matrix" with Morphius talking about Neo: "He is the one because only he can be the one and if he is not the one noone is the one and the one must be the one . . ." Blah, blah, blah . . .

 

[buckeyefool]

Some very good points on allot of players here.

Here is My take on a few. Vick, is overrated, but not by any fault of his own it is all media. I think He is a good NFL player, who really can impact his team, but not to the extent that the talking heads on tv like to say. Culpepper I don't think is overrated at all. I think 99% of the vikings problems lie in two places. The Defemse is horrible, and Mike Tice is not smart enough to be and NFL coach.

In My opinion Champ Bailey is very overrated. He has been hyped and Hyped and He was made to look like an idiot by Chad Johnson in their Monday night game.

Keyshawn Johnson is another in My opinion. He has been nothing but a bust in My opinion. he got a huge contract after one good year and has done nothing since then, other than run his mouth.

I will count this guy since He just got back into the NFL with the Bears. But Jeff George has to be one of the most overrated players of all time. It seems everytime went somewhere he was suppose to find his groove and live up to his potential, but he never did, and I wonder if he ever really has had it.