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Most over-rated coach

  • Charlie Weis (Notre Dame)

    Votes: 92 76.0%
  • Lloyd Carr (scUM)

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • Bob Stoops (Oklahoma)

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • Philip Fulmer (Tennessee)

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)

    Votes: 10 8.3%
  • other

    Votes: 4 3.3%

  • Total voters
    121
bucknutz;706445; said:
Cheeseburger Chuck hands down.

Part of me wants to agree but I have yet to see what his recruits are going to be like so I am holding back on making a decision at this time. For now though, I would have to say Stoops, every time he gets a "championship caliber" team they get throttled on the big stage.

Remember the Jason White teams and how good everyone said they were, but when push came to shove USC and LSU whomped on them.
 
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TheStoicPaisano;706815; said:
Bowden--he gets top 10 recruiting classes and does nada with them.
Stoops, Weis and Carr at least make it to the BCS where they promptly pucker.

I'm NO fan of his, but...Bowden finished in the top 5 14 years in a row...if he's overrated now it's because he can't live up to his old performances anymore.
 
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The comparison between Weis and the rest is tricky because we only have two data points. But lets look at the collective expectations for these two.

While Notre Dame was massively over-rated this year on average, there were several outlets that were not sold on them and predicted a worse showing than what they actually managed. CollegeFootballNews.com predicted only 8 wins for the Domers, who ended up with 10.

Last year on the other hand, Notre Dame exceeded everyone's expectations. CFN, for examplye, predicted a 5 win season for the Irish.

To sum up: 2 years -- One year over-rated on average, but not by everyone, the other year under-rated by everyone.

For Iowa, they were over-rated by everyone this year. The concesus was that they were the 3rd best team in the Big 10, and they weren't close to that. No fewer than 6 preseason magazines picked them 2nd in the conference. CFN.com picked them to lose only one game and to tie the Buckeyes for the conference championship again.

And this is not unusual for the Hawkeyes. Numerous outlets predicted the Hawkeyes to win the conference championship in 2005. The concensus that year was that it was either them or the Buckeyes.

To sum up for Ferentz: Over-rated by everyone this year. Over-rated by everyone last year. Over-rated more often than not since 2002.

I realize that the hype for Ferentz isn't the same as it is for Charlie. But there are many people nation-wide who are beginning to talk about Charlie being over-rated. The more people that say you're over-rated, the less over-rated you are.

And very few people outside of this board are calling KF over-rated. But that may start soon.
 
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scooter1369;706816; said:
Bowden has made it to what 4 BCS bowls? Those 8-4 years were really impressive, dadgummit.

FSU is 1-5 in BCS Bowls under Bowden. The lone win was against Va. Tech the year they went wire-to-wire. They've lost 3 straight Orange Bowls, but that's in a completely different part of Florida. :wink2:

They've lost at least 5 games in 3 of the last 5 seasons.
 
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The only thing Chaz has done since he got to South Bend was flash around his Super Bowl rings and get the media to fall in love with him. He has yet to win a big game. His biggest accomplishment since being at ND is losing to USC. When your biggest accomplishment is a loss, I think that speaks volumes.
 
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While I sort of agree about Ferentz, the best Iowa could ever be is the third best program in the Big Ten. He has wins over Ohio State and Michigan in his time at Iowa. He has shared a couple Big Ten titles. While I do not think he is on Tressel's level as a coach, he is not as overrated as a Fulmer or a Weis.

When it comes to Carr, I don't know who has him rated highly as a coach anymore. All Stoops has done is get his team to 3 title games and has been in the BCS in all but two of his years at OU. How he is on this list escapes me. In fact, he isn't even the most overrated coach in the Big 12 South. Mack Brown seems far more overrated to me.
 
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txbuckeye1983;707332; said:
In fact, he (Stoops) isn't even the most overrated coach in the Big 12 South. Mack Brown seems far more overrated to me.
Good point. Before Vince Young, everyone talked about how Brown couldn't win a big game. VY changed that for him, and won several games for him (last year's Rose Bowl comes to mind)... and now Brown gets credit for being a great coach. Smart enough to trust VY? Yes. Good enough to do it without VY? No way.
 
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