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More Discussion on Marijuana (Merged with Skeete thread discussion)

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Thump said:
Taco's?






Seriously, enlighten us. :slappy:

A wild guess will be that it had something to do with weed.
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not weed. hemp. essentially, Britain was running an embargo of French ports. Napoleon made a treaty with Russia- then and now the world's largest producer of industrial hemp- in which Russia would not sell hemp to Britain. since virtually EVERY British warship was outfitted with canvas sails made from hemp, and ropes and riggings made from hemp, they were in desperate need of the hemp to help their war efforts. Napoleon's attempt to invade Russia was with the intent to halt this hemp sales. the results were disastrous. the aforementioned treaty which disallowed the sale of Russian hemp to the British was part of the peace treaty which Napoleon signed after that conflict. while the Unbited States' stance in the situation was to remain neutral, U.S. merchant ships were coerced by British naval vessels into buying hemp from the Russians and selling it to the British. when Napoleon protested this activity to the U.S. government- who sided with the French- and the US agreed to halt this action, Britian declared war on the U.S...
 
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BB73 said:
In the same way that millions now acquire alcohol and don't use any illegal substances, partly because there's no dealer trying to advance them to more addictive and more costly substances.
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That is pure Dragnet - Joe Friday stuff BB. There is not a drug dealer that is smart enough to up-sell drug users. It is pure demand and supply.

The users demand and the dealers supply. It isn't part of any clandestine strategy.

Generally drug abusers and/or addicts move to harder and harder stuff on their own accord because they crave to get higher.

It isn't that planned out or sinister.

Point being, is that laws have no effect on drug abusers in the same way that gun laws have no effect on criminals. People with chemical issues will get drugs laws be damned.
 
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BB73 said:
That last paragraph could get this thread headed to the political forum.

For the Mods' sakes, please don't respond to the last paragraph in the same post you use to respond to the rest of lv's post.
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you mean this isn't a political topic?

i guess i'll go back and edit all my posts to read "smoke w33d everyday!!!"

after all, i believe that would be more in line with what Thump thinks my opinion is. f-ing ignorance fueled censorship on a message board. LMAO.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
you mean this isn't a political topic?

i guess i'll go back and edit all my posts to read "smoke w33d everyday!!!"

after all, i believe that would be more in line with what Thump thinks my opinion is. f-ing ignorance fueled censorship on a message board. LMAO.
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Discussion of marijuana is an Open Forum topic. Anything regarding the situation in Irag is definitely something for the Political forum.

What censorship are you referring to? The possible movement of a discussion topic from one unrestricted access forum to another?

And please answer this question directly: Does your 'ignorance fueled censorship' comment refer to something I've discussed or suggested?
 
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Folanator said:
That is pure Dragnet - Joe Friday stuff BB. There is not a drug dealer that is smart enough to up-sell drug users. It is pure demand and supply.

The users demand and the dealers supply. It isn't part of any clandestine strategy.

Generally drug abusers and/or addicts move to harder and harder stuff on their own accord because they crave to get higher.

It isn't that planned out or sinister.

Point being, is that laws have no effect on drug abusers in the same way that gun laws have no effect on criminals. People with chemical issues will get drugs laws be damned.
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i'm sot saying that it's part of a clandestine strategy, but i believe that he is closer to the truth than you think. while it may not be purely cash driven, invariably the person who supplies the first time pot smoker eventually comes over with some stronger stuff... not to mention the fact the ways that drugs- coke especially- are romanticised in the movies. if i had a dollar for every time i read that a football prospect's favorite movie was Scarface...
 
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BB73 said:
Discussion of marijuana is an Open Forum topic. Anything regarding the situation in Irag is definitely something for the Political forum.

What censorship are you referring to? The possible movement of a discussion topic from one unrestricted access forum to another?

And please answer this question directly: Does your 'ignorance fueled censorship' comment refer to something I've discussed or suggested?
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my censorship comment was in no way directed at anything you posted with regards to this subject. take that statement in the context of the paragraph in which it was written. it was a TIC remark regarding the way that people invariably write off anything one says- no matter how valid- simply because one is, or was, a pothead. it is a censorship of ideas and ideals, not of actual speech.
 
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Folanator said:
That is pure Dragnet - Joe Friday stuff BB. There is not a drug dealer that is smart enough to up-sell drug users. It is pure demand and supply.

The users demand and the dealers supply. It isn't part of any clandestine strategy.

Generally drug abusers and/or addicts move to harder and harder stuff on their own accord because they crave to get higher.

It isn't that planned out or sinister.
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OK, are you seriously stating that no dealer in the entire country ever gave somebody a free or low-cost first hit of something like coke or herion in an attempt to increase their demand?

Sorry, I'm not buying that there aren't any dealers smart enough to do that. It's a big business, and there are always businessmen who know how to increase the demand for their products.
 
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BB73 said:
OK, are you seriously stating that no dealer in the entire country ever gave somebody a free or low-cost first hit of something like coke or herion in an attempt to increase their demand?

Sorry, I'm not buying that there aren't any dealers smart enough to do that. It's a big business, and there are always businessmen who know how to increase the demand for their products.
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I happen to know for a fact that there is "up-selling"

In college, I was once given a handful of Mushrooms for free. All he said was, "Hey, if you like em, give me a call and I can get you some more. Your friends too."

Handed out a little, in hopes of getting some business. Never seen that in the weed game, but I'd bet it happens at some level.
 
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