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MLK Widow - Coretta Scott King Dies

Hasn't Martin Luther King's doctoral dissertation since been found to be plagiarism?

Yes, but how is that relevant to a conversation about the death of his widow, Coretta Scott King, Thump?

Let's address the straw man being built here anyway...

Plagiarism is wrong and I recently prosecuted a student for it. However, it is a universal American university problem as witnessed by Ohio State's recent steps to confront it. Think you never committed plagiarism, check against this document http://www.rbs2.com/plag.htm and you may be surprised.

The Carnegie Foundation recently reported that more than 90% of USA undergrads have cheated on tests, assignments, and other work in university (see http://www.carnegiefoundation.org/perspectives/sub.asp?key=245&subkey=577Studies and http://www.msu.edu/unit/ombud/plagiarism.html .

Plagiarism has been a rampant problem for decades. What has changed is that universities now have reliable software to detect it. In fact, it is the advent of software that detects the problem that has forced universities to confront the problem.

So, plagiarism is wrong and it appears that King engaged in it more than once, but most American students have done so during their careers. In fact, didn't Tibor recently detail cheating on lab projects while at Ohio State?

Anyway, as using other people's phrases as one's own, we can look no further than one of the most motivational phrases ever uttered by an American president...

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. Author: Cicero (64 BC).

I cannot comment about Martin Luther King's supposed marital discretions. There are lots of press reports that indicate he was unfaithful to his wife. There are reports that he was funded by Communists. Other press reports argue that his indiscretions and supposed Communist affiliations were exaggerated by J. Edgar Hoover, who reportedly despised him and by former aids who were disappointed they never achieved his fame after he was assassinated.

Are these allegations true? Certainly a university found him guilty of plagiarism. About the rest, I don't know.

Now to return to the topic of this thread. In what does Martin Luther King's private life detract from the undeniable contribution he made to civil rights in America, which I assume is what you imply by asking a question to which you already know the answer, and how is this relevant to a discussion about the death of his wife?

Coretta Scott King does not deserve to be disrespected in death. Perhaps no one does. I am not suggesting that you meant to do so Thump.

I am very sure that if we try, we can dig up some dirt on Corretta Scott King. Somebody, somewhere has an allegation against every public figure in America. But my point is this. Look at this woman in abstract. Look at the life she led. Look at the offers of personal aggrandisement she turned down. Then consider how much respect she deserves. Were Tibs comments earlier in this thread were consistent with that?

I don't care to start a flame war with anyone, it is the principle that I am addressing. Peace!
 
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Now to return to the topic of this thread. In what does Martin Luther King's private life detract from the undeniable contribution he made to civil rights in America, which I assume is what you imply by asking a question to which you already know the answer, and how is this relevant to a discussion about the death of his wife?

Coretta Scott King does not deserve to be disrespected in death. Perhaps no one does. I am not suggesting that you meant to do so Thump.

In what way did my post imply that MLK's infidelity detracted from his greatness?

In what way did I disrespect his wife?

Reading comprehension obviously not your forte.
 
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At times, Reverend King didnt know he had a wife either.

Honestly, I found this comment to be in jest and quite funny. Sure, death is a sobering reality, but humor (even the sick kind of Tibor's) is to be appreciated in moments like these.

I don't think anyone here is going to question the greatness of MLK or the humility of his now deceased widow. Their contributions to American society can never be quantified.

But, come on. It was a funny joke, and that's really all it was. Classic Tibor.:tibor:
 
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Do you know who The Greaseman is? He was a DJ in the DC area that got canned for a comment like that years ago.

When they made MLK day a holiday, he went off about it and said "Hell, lets kill four more and take the whole week off".

He was lucky to get out of the city alive.

2 different statements. "The Greaseman" was being racist (kill four more of THEM), I wasn't. My statement had nothing to do with her being black, it had to do with her being MLK's widow, 2 completely different things.

Some of you guys are way too sensitive.
 
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2 different statements. "The Greaseman" was being racist (kill four more of THEM), I wasn't. My statement had nothing to do with her being black, it had to do with her being MLK's widow, 2 completely different things.

Some of you guys are way too sensitive.

I don't think Scooter was criticizing your statement.

I think he was just saying that folks need to be careful about where they make that type of joke, and providing info to the board about an incident that was related to the subject.

But I must be wrong, because if I were right, maybe that would make you overly sensitive.
 
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I don't think Scooter was criticizing your statement.

I think he was just saying that folks need to be careful about where they make that type of joke, and providing info to the board about an incident that was related to the subject.

But I must be wrong, because if I were right, maybe that would make you overly sensitive.

BB73...I understand, I was just trying to point out the difference. He wasnt the only one I offended b/c I had a couple dings (but I received a couple more greenies) so I felt compelled to explain I wasn't being racist (b/c I'm not)

The "too sensitive" thing was directed more at Steve19. I have never been accused of even being sensitive, let alone too sensitive.:biggrin:

I hope that made sense.:tongue2:
 
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2 different statements. "The Greaseman" was being racist (kill four more of THEM), I wasn't. My statement had nothing to do with her being black, it had to do with her being MLK's widow, 2 completely different things.

Some of you guys are way too sensitive.
I wasn't attacking you at all. Just offering up a story in that vain from years ago.

Greaseman was an ass. He later got canned again for a comment about the women marines and 8th & I.
 
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I don't think Scooter was criticizing your statement.

I think he was just saying that folks need to be careful about where they make that type of joke, and providing info to the board about an incident that was related to the subject.

But I must be wrong, because if I were right, maybe that would make you overly sensitive.
Good call. :biggrin:
 
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The "too sensitive" thing was directed more at Steve19.

You could be right but then when you've experienced the horror of Apartheid, buried friends who were killed simply for their race or membership in the wrong political party, and tried to change the nature of the beast nonviolently, then perhaps that's a natural outcome.

Tyrus3, I respect your opinion. Perhaps you are right. But I think it is more likely that if you saw what I have seen, lived the life I have lived, you would not think me too sensitive.
 
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