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Buck33Eye11 said:
finally he's out of the NL West. top 5 hitter in the game. this is also a pretty prime LOLOLOL DBAGS GOT RUN ON imo
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Yea, not a great return to say the least. I guess it's not the strongest market right now and he's a 1 year left on the contract player, but you'd still think they could have pulled a little bit better of a return.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Yea, not a great return to say the least. I guess it's not the strongest market right now and he's a 1 year left on the contract player, but you'd still think they could have pulled a little bit better of a return.
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I don't know anything about the three live bodies they got in return but that draft pick will be what, top 50 or so?

If the three have any value at all it isn't a terrible return for 1 year. If they keep him and he walks next year as a FA all they get is the draft pick.

Plus he showed signs of his bat slowing down for a long stretch last season. He's the type that typically doesn't age well.

That said, he'll likely find the St Louis fountain of youth and win 2-3 MVP's before finally retiring at 53 rewriting the "personal career numbers vs the Cincinnati Reds" record book along the way.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I don't know anything about the three live bodies they got in return but that draft pick will be what, top 50 or so?

If the three have any value at all it isn't a terrible return for 1 year. If they keep him and he walks next year as a FA all they get is the draft pick.

Plus he showed signs of his bat slowing down for a long stretch last season. He's the type that typically doesn't age well.

That said, he'll likely find the St Louis fountain of youth and win 2-3 MVP's before finally retiring at 53 rewriting the "personal career numbers vs the Cincinnati Reds" record book along the way.
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yeah i agree, teams have certainly made worse trades.

Weaver is a middle-to-back of the rotation type arm. still youngish, decent stuff, decent control, struggles a bit with lefties, nothing special. he'll be a lot more variant in the NL West in Chase & Coors where he's likely to get blown up a bit, and the Dodgers are a horrific matchup for him, but should do well in Petco. there is certainly upside here tho if he can pick up 1 more K per 9 and learn to spot the edges a bit more.

Kelly will help solidify ARI behind the plate..they've had a revolving door there for a few seasons without consistent production. he was slated to replace Yadi whenever he calls it, but he just signed an extension and the dude still somehow plays every day, so dumping your #2 prospect is risky but reasonable if they think Goldy is the one piece they need (i think he could be). he's young, only half a full season in the bigs so far, spread over 3 years, but good plate discipline and room to grow if he gets the work. meh power, basically a typical Catcher prospect. it's a decent get for them if he can handle the pitching staff

Andy Young will hopefully fill their 2B hole in the future. they've been playing Danny Descalso the last couple seasons, and he's been fine, but he's slowing down and is more on the platoon side of 30 now than the full time starter side. he'll likely head to AAA this year and get a look sometime mid-season if he does well.

the pick will be fine, but baseball is a different animal and there is a ton more variance with how these guys end up. this could end up a million different ways.

Goldy is an absolute monster tho. he did have a rough first half last year but turned it on and was an impossible out for like 3 months (similar to Votto a couple yrs ago..just hits .415 for 14 weeks and completely destroys you). guy is a damn good hitter. he might start a bit slower as he ages, and playing in STL will ding his numbers a bit (no Coors also, GABP instead), but he's got at least 5 elite years left in the tank and should command quite the contract. just an excellent ballplayer..quiet, confident, consistent and dangerous af. he will put up Rizzo-type numbers in GABP, even as a righty. total machine.

i LOLd bc i don't have a ton of respect for Weaver as a legit 2 just yet and i have immense respect for Goldy, and things are quiet still on the movement front and will be until winter meetings start up. ARI is now without 2 of the 3 most important players from their run the last few seasons (Corbin & Goldy) so they're comfortable with getting a respectable haul with upside. i think it's ok, and i don't know the dollar figures off hand so i'm sure this is prob the best they were going to get for now
 
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from baseball-ref this am:

baseball-ref stathead said:
In fact, St. Louis' new first baseman, Paul Goldschmidt, has a case for being the very best hitter in the NL. Among position players, no one in the NL has posted a better WAR since 2013 than Goldy. Overall, his 36.3 Wins Above Replacement ranks third among hitters, behind Mike Trout and Josh Donaldson (the latter of whom is switching leagues after spending his entire career in the AL).
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Jaxbuck said:
I don't know anything about the three live bodies they got in return but that draft pick will be what, top 50 or so?

If the three have any value at all it isn't a terrible return for 1 year. If they keep him and he walks next year as a FA all they get is the draft pick.

Plus he showed signs of his bat slowing down for a long stretch last season. He's the type that typically doesn't age well.

That said, he'll likely find the St Louis fountain of youth and win 2-3 MVP's before finally retiring at 53 rewriting the "personal career numbers vs the Cincinnati Reds" record book along the way.
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STL's Comp Round B Pick will be #78. https://www.mlb.com/news/2019-mlb-draft-competitive-balance-rounds-set/c-300845574

True though about only getting the draft picks if they kept him and he walked.
 
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