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Miller vs Pryor vs Smith

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yt6;2217119; said:
If I have to pick one of these three in a huge Bucks game, I am taking Pryor.
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Obviously.

Because in the biggest game of Smith's career (2006 BCS championship game), he came up with the worst performance of his career (4 of 14 passing, 5 sacks, interception, fumble, 6 yards of total offense in a 41-14 loss).

And in the biggest game of Pryor's career (2010 Rose Bowl), he had arguably his best game (23 of 37 passing, 2 TDs, INT, 338 yards of total offense in a 26-17 win). Pryor followed that up with another huge game in the 2011 Sugar Bowl (14 of 25 passing, 2 TD, 336 yards of total offense in a 31-26 win).

Miller hasn't played in a big game yet, so he can't really be part of this discussion.

yt6;2217119; said:
I believe that Pryor was a better quarterback and overall more productive than Troy Smith.
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Pryor was clearly more productive than Smith for a longer period. Whether he was "better" than Smith is a matter of opinion. I say "yes", but I can understand the other side of the argument.
 
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LordJeffBuck;2217199; said:
Pryor was clearly more productive than Smith for a longer period. Whether he was "better" than Smith is a matter of opinion. I say "yes", but I can understand the other side of the argument.
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Smith also had VASTLY superior players to throw the ball to so that factors in as well and supports your position.
 
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This is ultimately an unfair comparison because Miller will have the benefit of the better coach for the final three years of his career.

He's unlikely to turn pro after his junior year, so I would suggest waiting until after he's completed his 3rd season before comparing the three.
 
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yt6;2217119; said:
OK, so in the past decade for the Bucks, three quarterback that are often compared.How about you?
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Just sayin': In the last 10 years (like in 2002) this guy did pretty good too. Maybe he should be considered.


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and he has a MVP trophy to prove it.

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LordJeffBuck;2217199; said:
Miller hasn't played in a big game yet, so he can't really be part of this discussion.
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um, what?? no offense, but go ding yourself. both teams could be 0-11, and it would STILL be the biggest game of the year.

Braxton Miller had 335 yards and 3 TDs in The Game last year.
 
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I'd take Miller first Smith is on record as saying that Braxton will be better than he was and his skills are off of the charts and getting better.

Smith worked hard and overachieved until he won the Heisman.

Pryor underachieved given the ability he had.

Miller is already a better runner and passer than Pryor and can routinely do things that Smith could not.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2217295; said:
You really think Meyer is a better coach than Tressel?
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I think the better comparison to make (particularly when talking about whether or not it benefits the QB) would be Meyer + offensive coordinator + QB coach > Tressel + offensive coordinator + QB coach.

That is a no brainer if there ever was one in my opinion.
 
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Buckeye86;2217306; said:
I think the better comparison to make (particularly when talking about whether or not it benefits the QB) would be Meyer + offensive coordinator + QB coach > Tressel + offensive coordinator + QB coach.

That is a no brainer if there ever was one in my opinion.
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:lol:

It amazes me to some degree, that Tressel was supposedly handicapped so much by Bolman the scheme, culture of entitlement and lack of work ethic in the program... yet played in and mostly won BCS Bowl after BCS bowl, this leaves me the impression that he was indeed a singular football genius of immense proportions.

(86, not arguing a bit with what you're saying, and almost assuredly from a stats perspective, this will almost assuredly end up being the case, it just amuses me)
 
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Jim Tressel was 106-22 in 10 years at Ohio State. That's an average of approximately 10.5 wins a year. If Meyer wins 10.5 games a year over his span at Ohio State, takes the Buckeyes to BCS bowl games in 80% of his seasons, and wins 60% of those BCS bowl games, I will be amazed. I'll also be very happy.

It will be a long time before I'd admit that Meyer is better than Tressel as a coach. I don't think I ever will. Meyer may coach quarterbacks up better and do other aspects better, but I can't think of a way Meyer might improve on 106-22, 5-3, 9-1, or 7 Big Ten Championships in 10 years. (Unless Meyer can get 2 NCs at Ohio State, that is.)

Back to the subject at hand, I agree with whoever said Pryor's 2 BCS bowl games beats out Smith's 1 BCS bowl game. I think even if you include his win over Notre Dame (who doesn't beat Notre Dame in BCS bowl games?) Pryor wins. I'm changing my vote to Pryor.
 
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Smith blows both out of the water in terms of passing the football. Braxton and Pryor currently look like they're still in HS when compared with Troy in that regard. Luckily, Braxton has all the time in the world for improvement.

Also, Tressel is the greatest pure coach I have ever had the honor to witness. If Urban and Herman together manage to equal what Tressel did (including appearing in and winning the greatest number of BCS bowl games by any coach in history, not to mention appearing in 3 NC with the Buckeyes and winning 4 NC with Youngstown State), I will actually be pleasantly surprised.
 
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