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Miami (FL) Hurricanes (1926-2003)

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MililaniBuckeye;1801454; said:
He did lead a team to a national title over a certain team from down south...and by the way, he was in the NFL for a couple seasons. In his case, it was a lack of natural talent, and not the amount of studying he had to do in college, which kept him from being a NFL player. I'd transfer line 3 to you, but common sense just called for you on line 1.
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He sure did - and NEITHER of them is in the NFL.

Go figure!

But, thanks for making my point for me...

Those with the skills/talent, will get pushed more.
They will spend more time w/football, and will get the "General Studies" or "Communications" degrees.

According to http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KrenCr00/gamelog/, his NFL record was 3-3. However, that site does not mention whether he was the starter in all 6 games.

Don't get me wrong - not "dissing" on Krenzel, just saying, that in GENERAL, most Student-Athletes cannot juggle being a starter on a NCF championship-caliber team, and also a "difficult" major, like accounting, sciences, etc...

he was a helluva player, smart, never got in trouble (that I know of), but went to the NFL and PFFT!

Um, yeah, just like Dorsey - who is now in the CFL working on the backside of his football career

I think common sense is STILL holding for you on line 1 - reality on line 2 gave up and hung up on ya! Oh, now WTF just called in online 3 for ya.

:)
 
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sharkonwheels;1801514; said:
He sure did - and NEITHER of them is in the NFL.

Go figure!

But, thanks for making my point for me...

Those with the skills/talent, will get pushed more.
They will spend more time w/football, and will get the "General Studies" or "Communications" degrees.

According to http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KrenCr00/gamelog/, his NFL record was 3-3. However, that site does not mention whether he was the starter in all 6 games.

Don't get me wrong - not "dissing" on Krenzel, just saying, that in GENERAL, most Student-Athletes cannot juggle being a starter on a NCF championship-caliber team, and also a "difficult" major, like accounting, sciences, etc...

he was a helluva player, smart, never got in trouble (that I know of), but went to the NFL and PFFT!

Um, yeah, just like Dorsey - who is now in the CFL working on the backside of his football career

I think common sense is STILL holding for you on line 1 - reality on line 2 gave up and hung up on ya! Oh, now WTF just called in online 3 for ya.

:)
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3-2 is correct. Jonathan Quinn started the Tampa game for the Bears in 2004, but nice try. :wink2:
 
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BB73;1801584; said:
3-2 is correct. Jonathan Quinn started the Tampa game for the Bears in 2004, but nice try. :wink2:
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Um, not like it's a big difference 3-3, 3-2, same crap - barely the length of a pre-season.

Not exactly something *I* would brag about - well, ya know, on the OTHER side of that coin, how many people can actually say they STARTED 5 games as a starting QB?

Anyway - I still stand by my original point.
Of course, there will always be exceptions to any point...
If he was able to juggle an Accounting Major and get a degree, along with being the starting QB of OSU, in a NC year?

Hats off to him!
 
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sharkonwheels;1801637; said:
Um, not like it's a big difference 3-3, 3-2, same crap - barely the length of a pre-season.

Not exactly something *I* would brag about - well, ya know, on the OTHER side of that coin, how many people can actually say they STARTED 5 games as a starting QB?

Anyway - I still stand by my original point.
Of course, there will always be exceptions to any point...
If he was able to juggle an Accounting Major and get a degree, along with being the starting QB of OSU, in a NC year?

Hats off to him!
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He obviously didn't have a stellar pro career, and I wasn't bragging - I was just pointing out in a half-joking manner that he did manage to have a winning record despite unimpressive numbers.

But when that record gets quoted and is wrongly said to be inaccurate, that makes a difference to me, and I'm going to point out that my original info was correct.

And in case you're not aware, since the accounting major thing was mentioned just as an example, Krenzel's actual major was molecular genetics.

And I'll state that such a major is rare for a college football starter in a big-time program, since otherwise you may feel the need to try to make that point again. :tongue2:
 
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BB73;1801668; said:
He obviously didn't have a stellar pro career, and I wasn't bragging - I was just pointing out in a half-joking manner that he did manage to have a winning record despite unimpressive numbers.

But when that record gets quoted and is wrongly said to be inaccurate, that makes a difference to me, and I'm going to point out that my original info was correct.

And in case you're not aware, since the accounting major thing was mentioned just as an example, Krenzel's actual major was molecular genetics.

And I'll state that such a major is rare for a college football starter in a big-time program, since otherwise you may feel the need to try to make that point again. :tongue2:
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Double hats-off...Molecular genetics?
Damn.
 
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sharkonwheels;1801429; said:
I mean in general - not EVERY student-athlete is a Krenzel...

Of course, he's not in the NFL, either, now is he?
I hardly think 2:1 INT-TD ratio and 52 QB rating doth a proficient NFL QB make

So...Still sticking with what I said...

...Reality still holding on line 3...

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Reality is that a number of Buckeye players are taking demanding majors.

There seem to be some rather dismissive comments about communications degrees. A communication major at Ohio State, by the way, is not an easy degree--the program is a leader internationally, it's PhD program ranked #1 nationally in research publications and #3 overall by the U.S. National Research Council. Look around their webpage. They are publishing well in top business, marketing, economics, and statistics journals as well as in communications, psychology, and public opinion journals. And, compared to lots of other places where teaching assistants doing a lot of the teaching can be barely understood, their PhD students appear to be winning teaching awards.

I saw some comment that Ohio State doesn't list player majors, but that is because majors are typically declared at the end of the general education requirement period in year two.

Anyone who surveys the players' declared majors will conclude that the majority will be doing anything but meaningless degrees.

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