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2021 MI DL Damon Payne (Alabama Verbal)

Someone disagreeing with you doesn't meet this board's definition of an "attack" by a long shot. Frankly, I think "Diego" was pretty gentle and you're lucky that he was the one that responded. It seems like you're saying that the Buckeyes didn't land Payne because they chose not to recruit him. This probably seemed odd to a lot of people on the board as very few think the staff would have landed him regardless of the time and resources they poured down that drain. As for the rest of your statement, I'm curious what you think constitutes biting Ohio State in the butt. Does this mean he would contribute to an Alabama victory over Ohio State or just that he would play well against the Buckeyes?

Damn I knew I overreacted and shouldn’t have posted but you confirmed. That being said, I do believe that Ohio State stopped recruiting him and am too ignorant to know why but just had that feeling the whole time. Maybe he told the staff from the get go no thanks. Who knows but I didn’t see updates on visits to his school or pro OSU reporters providing updates. I also feel like he could contribute to a loss in our future but I also feel almost as likely he is a bust, who knows. Right now I think it’s more the former than the latter but just my opinion
 
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Damn I knew I overreacted and shouldn’t have posted but you confirmed. That being said, I do believe that Ohio State stopped recruiting him and am too ignorant to know why but just had that feeling the whole time. Maybe he told the staff from the get go no thanks. Who knows but I didn’t see updates on visits to his school or pro OSU reporters providing updates. I also feel like he could contribute to a loss in our future but I also feel almost as likely he is a bust, who knows. Right now I think it’s more the former than the latter but just my opinion

As overreactions go, that was pretty mild. When you have a month or two to spare, ask one of the other old-timers about some of mine LOL
 
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guess I’ll chalk that up as a loss. I stand by my comment but I hope I’m wrong
Apologies if I was harsh. Comments always welcome especially from folks new to the board. I just try not to worry about every ebb and flow of the Buckeyes' recruiting student-athletes (and I think that's the usual advice from the "oldies but goodies" crowd here on BP).
 
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PAYNE’S FAMILY CONFUSED BY MICHIGAN’S SILENCE

In Michigan, there seems to be a major disconnect between in-state players and the Wolverines coaching staff.

That’s even more under the spotlight following Rainer Sabin’s story in the Detroit Free Press that detailed the mystery a lack of communication between the Michigan coaches and Damon Payne, the No. 1 player in the state of Michigan who is a five-star prospect ranked No. 1 at defensive tackle and No. 14 overall.



Payne committed to Alabama in July, but Michigan seems to have pulled itself out of the race, writes Sabin:

Bewilderment is detected in his voice. Disappointment is heard, too. Over the phone, Damon Payne Sr. recalled how the Michigan football program he has always rooted for suddenly stopped recruiting his son, the gifted five-star defensive tackle and newly minted Alabama commitment, Damon Jr.

“I don’t know what happened. I have no idea,” he said. “If you can dig and investigate and find out why, let me know.”

More from Sabin’s report:

“It sounds weird. I totally get it,” he said. “As a parent, me and my wife and my son haven’t heard from them. I can’t go into detail and say why.”

He just simply doesn’t have an explanation. But Payne Sr. wondered if it may have had something to do with the tense relationship that has developed between his son’s coach at Belleville High School, Jermain Crowell, and Michigan. Based on his own experience, Payne said Crowell never tried to steer him away from the Wolverines.

“He never discouraged us or any other kids, ‘Don’t go to Michigan,’” Payne Sr. said. “I haven’t witnessed ill-will toward Michigan from him.”

The Wolverines have the luxury of having one of the best cycles the state has ever produced, with five players ranked in the top 80 overall.

If they can land Rocco Spindler on Saturday, and if they can land Donovan Edwards, that will go a monumental way to getting them back into being competitive against Ohio State. Until that happens, The Game could be a mismatch for the foreseeable future.
 
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PAYNE’S FAMILY CONFUSED BY MICHIGAN’S SILENCE

In Michigan, there seems to be a major disconnect between in-state players and the Wolverines coaching staff.

That’s even more under the spotlight following Rainer Sabin’s story in the Detroit Free Press that detailed the mystery a lack of communication between the Michigan coaches and Damon Payne, the No. 1 player in the state of Michigan who is a five-star prospect ranked No. 1 at defensive tackle and No. 14 overall.



Payne committed to Alabama in July, but Michigan seems to have pulled itself out of the race, writes Sabin:

Bewilderment is detected in his voice. Disappointment is heard, too. Over the phone, Damon Payne Sr. recalled how the Michigan football program he has always rooted for suddenly stopped recruiting his son, the gifted five-star defensive tackle and newly minted Alabama commitment, Damon Jr.

“I don’t know what happened. I have no idea,” he said. “If you can dig and investigate and find out why, let me know.”

More from Sabin’s report:

“It sounds weird. I totally get it,” he said. “As a parent, me and my wife and my son haven’t heard from them. I can’t go into detail and say why.”

He just simply doesn’t have an explanation. But Payne Sr. wondered if it may have had something to do with the tense relationship that has developed between his son’s coach at Belleville High School, Jermain Crowell, and Michigan. Based on his own experience, Payne said Crowell never tried to steer him away from the Wolverines.

“He never discouraged us or any other kids, ‘Don’t go to Michigan,’” Payne Sr. said. “I haven’t witnessed ill-will toward Michigan from him.”

The Wolverines have the luxury of having one of the best cycles the state has ever produced, with five players ranked in the top 80 overall.

If they can land Rocco Spindler on Saturday, and if they can land Donovan Edwards, that will go a monumental way to getting them back into being competitive against Ohio State. Until that happens, The Game could be a mismatch for the foreseeable future.

This recruitment is a clear example of why scUM is so far from OSU as a football program. No way would Meyer or Day not put up a fight trying to land the top player in OH, regardless of the relationship with the coach, you find a way to mend that or have an assistant try and mend it. I couldn't fathom giving up recruiting a kid lime Jack Sawyer and letting a team like Bama get him. Inexcusable, but ill enjoy the continued domination
 
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