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DZ83CK
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LitlBuck;1300414; said:
Well, keep in mind that he was talking about potential. I remember Matta saying the exact same thing about David Lighty when he came in, so it's reasonable to expect that Walter's defense will be comparable to David's. Matta also has used the phrase "lockdown defender" to describe Walter.
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I remember the Illinois teams with Turner Gill and Marcus Liberty among others. They had a bunch of 6'4" to 6'6" athletes who could guard anyone on the floor except a big athletic center, and they switched off screens and very seldom found themselves in defensive mismatches. They sure were fun to watch and a bear to play against. I believe they made it to the Final Four and lost to scUM in Fishers interim year (R. Robinson, Glenn Rice and a 6'10" or so center power forward whose name escapes me)
Anyhow, if this Buckeye team embraces defense, specially with Mullens and Lauderdale in the middle to erase some mistakes, they can be a nightmare to play against with Offut, Lighty, Turner, Buford along with Diebs and Simmons who have pretty good size and athleticism and can guard two or three positions. Matta has always seemed to pride himself on defense and he is bringing in plenty of athletic wing type players who can be shutdown defenders, I can't wait to see this years version of the Buckeye Cagers.
Anyhow, if this Buckeye team embraces defense, specially with Mullens and Lauderdale in the middle to erase some mistakes, they can be a nightmare to play against with Offut, Lighty, Turner, Buford along with Diebs and Simmons who have pretty good size and athleticism and can guard two or three positions. Matta has always seemed to pride himself on defense and he is bringing in plenty of athletic wing type players who can be shutdown defenders, I can't wait to see this years version of the Buckeye Cagers.
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DZ83CK
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Here is a short video of the MBB (and some WBB) players from media day:
Jim Tressel 08-10-09
There is a nice little sneak peak of the guys in that video.
Jim Tressel 08-10-09
There is a nice little sneak peak of the guys in that video.
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dozerbuck;1302655; said:Kecman and Simmons looked like pretty good shooters
Outside shooting was certainly one of the main motivations behind signing them. The loss of JB was huge in that area (he made over 100 3s last year & next best was Diebler) - OSU was left with no especially reliable outside shooting threats coming into this year if they hadn't added the Juco guys. Crater is not known for his shooting & Offutt is probably going to be like Lighty when he came in (~20% on 3s), hence the need for a shooter like Simmons. Kecman's main asset is his ability to shoot.
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I guess I remember both, Turner and Kendal, maybe I saw Turner playing pickup games with Marcus and the Illinois BBall team when coach Osborne gave the Huskers a breakTlangs;1302252; said:
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crazybuckfan40
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DZ83CK;1302675; said:
Turner is not a bad shooter from the outside...His finger through his shot off midseason last year...Causing his percentages to go down, and then Buford is a good shooter as well...I also think that the way Lighty has worked on his shot since he got here, that he will shoot a much better percentage this year...
We don't have a real dead eye, and I am not sure outside of Diebler we have a guy that will chuck it up there as many times as Butler, but we should have a solid all around shooting team...
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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We need one or two guys off the bench that can be counted on to hit from the perimeter.......I am hoping Diebler is one of those options.....Buford will score.....period........
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DZ83CK
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Turner wasn't taking or making many 3s even before his injury. We shall see if he has improved his range this year, but even if he has, it is still a reach to expect him to make a lot of 3s this year. He definitely has not been a high volume 3-point shooter to this point and he plays too unselfishly to expect that to change a whole lot. Buford should be able to help some in the area of perimeter shooting, but he will probably have a bit of an adjustment period. Simmons was a high volume 3-point shooter at Mott (made over three 3s per game on average last year on 40% shooting), so he could pick up some of the slack there. If he averages 20+ minutes per game, I expect Simmons to be one of the top 2 on the team in number of 3s made.
Diebler is the guy who could change things considerably. If he improved quite a bit, then OSU will be very dangerous on 3s. A lot of guys shoot poorly on 3s in their freshman year and then are much better the next year.
Diebler is the guy who could change things considerably. If he improved quite a bit, then OSU will be very dangerous on 3s. A lot of guys shoot poorly on 3s in their freshman year and then are much better the next year.
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I watched the team practice today during the Agonis Club tip-off event...
I think Simmons is way better than any of the other PG options when it comes to shooting the 3. No question there. But his leadership isn't where it needs to be. PJ Hill is a much better team leader than any either of the other PG options. Crater showed he was quick & showed his quickness could get him into trouble when he drives too far under the basket. Offutt didn't see any time at the point. I came away with the impression that Simmons would play a lot (~25 minutes on average) and that he was the leader for the PG spot right now but would also see time off the ball.
Lighty was canning the 3s really well. Diebler made like 3-5 (4-6 if you count one slightly after the practice buzzer that banked in) 3s and took Buford off the dribble. Simmons is who I thought he was - a good shooter. I expect Lighty, Diebler & Simmons to be the top 3 on the team in number of 3s made this year.
Dallas looked long and lean sort of like Othello Hunter body-wise only stronger. The word to describe him now is "active." He runs the court well.
Zisis is a guy who Matta said was a lot better than he thought he was. Zisis is a hard worker and is big and strong & can score in the paint. Not a great athlete, but his feet aren't stuck to the floor like KK's seemed to be. He definitely will help out when he becomes eligible next year.
Madsen and Kecman are good at stepping away from the basket and shooting, although Kecman has more range. Kecman's eligibility question was asked & Matta said it wasn't resolved yet, but if he had to sit out any games, it would be 8-16 games.
Offutt missed a couple of 3s and had a couple of TOs and seemed lagging when running up and down the court (his team had to run because his team lost the 5-on-5 game) - he finished behind the bigs like Mullens in the up and down.
BJ can post guys up pretty well, but he needs to do a better job of avoiding charging into defenders and he shouldn't be shooting shots right in front of the old 3-point line because he doesn't quite have that kind of range. At one point he made a nice recovery and blocked what looked like an open shot for Zisis.
Buford missed badly on a couple of shots and hit the deck after he got driven to the basket on a drive by Diebler.
Turner made a couple of nice plays but didn't take many shots.
I think Simmons is way better than any of the other PG options when it comes to shooting the 3. No question there. But his leadership isn't where it needs to be. PJ Hill is a much better team leader than any either of the other PG options. Crater showed he was quick & showed his quickness could get him into trouble when he drives too far under the basket. Offutt didn't see any time at the point. I came away with the impression that Simmons would play a lot (~25 minutes on average) and that he was the leader for the PG spot right now but would also see time off the ball.
Lighty was canning the 3s really well. Diebler made like 3-5 (4-6 if you count one slightly after the practice buzzer that banked in) 3s and took Buford off the dribble. Simmons is who I thought he was - a good shooter. I expect Lighty, Diebler & Simmons to be the top 3 on the team in number of 3s made this year.
Dallas looked long and lean sort of like Othello Hunter body-wise only stronger. The word to describe him now is "active." He runs the court well.
Zisis is a guy who Matta said was a lot better than he thought he was. Zisis is a hard worker and is big and strong & can score in the paint. Not a great athlete, but his feet aren't stuck to the floor like KK's seemed to be. He definitely will help out when he becomes eligible next year.
Madsen and Kecman are good at stepping away from the basket and shooting, although Kecman has more range. Kecman's eligibility question was asked & Matta said it wasn't resolved yet, but if he had to sit out any games, it would be 8-16 games.
Offutt missed a couple of 3s and had a couple of TOs and seemed lagging when running up and down the court (his team had to run because his team lost the 5-on-5 game) - he finished behind the bigs like Mullens in the up and down.
BJ can post guys up pretty well, but he needs to do a better job of avoiding charging into defenders and he shouldn't be shooting shots right in front of the old 3-point line because he doesn't quite have that kind of range. At one point he made a nice recovery and blocked what looked like an open shot for Zisis.
Buford missed badly on a couple of shots and hit the deck after he got driven to the basket on a drive by Diebler.
Turner made a couple of nice plays but didn't take many shots.
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DZ83CK
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Here is a nice blog entry from Bob Baptist:
Practice update from Matta (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)
Baptist says Simmons is rumored to have the edge at PG, but quotes Matta as saying Crater has the ability to heat the basketball up defensively & that Simmons needs to do a better job of using his length and playing hard every possession.
The man-to-man defense is what Matta said they've been practicing so far. He said they could go zone, but thinks they need to get down man-to-man principles because the zone uses some of those principles. In the tip-off event he remarked about how the zone held opponents to 38% from the field, which was the lowest opponent FG% in his 8 seasons as a head coach. Baptist hints at the likelihood that they will play zone when Dallas and BJ are in there together.
Interestingly, one of the things in Baptist's blog is the idea that Thad said OSU won't shoot as many 3s this year as prior years. I'm not sure if I buy it, but we'll see. Playing Dallas & BJ together a lot would tend to cause that result, I suppose.
Practice update from Matta (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)
Baptist says Simmons is rumored to have the edge at PG, but quotes Matta as saying Crater has the ability to heat the basketball up defensively & that Simmons needs to do a better job of using his length and playing hard every possession.
The man-to-man defense is what Matta said they've been practicing so far. He said they could go zone, but thinks they need to get down man-to-man principles because the zone uses some of those principles. In the tip-off event he remarked about how the zone held opponents to 38% from the field, which was the lowest opponent FG% in his 8 seasons as a head coach. Baptist hints at the likelihood that they will play zone when Dallas and BJ are in there together.
Interestingly, one of the things in Baptist's blog is the idea that Thad said OSU won't shoot as many 3s this year as prior years. I'm not sure if I buy it, but we'll see. Playing Dallas & BJ together a lot would tend to cause that result, I suppose.
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