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Mark May (Blew 5 guys at Pitt)

This is stupid to argue because you're obviously never wrong.

Their defense will never be mistaken for great they may even be just bad but to point at one game and one quarter is a very narrow minded point of view. Teams don't win in the first quarter and giving up yards (97 more per game than the Buckeyes) isn't all that bad when you're fuckin pitching shut outs in the 2nd half every week.
 
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I think Oregon is a great team and may have a ligitimate claim to the #2 spot, mostly because of our injuries on defense, but...

NFBuck;1787698; said:
Last year has nothing to do with this year...


BuckeyeMike80;1787704; said:
You know what the best part of the first snap of the Marshall game meant?

Last year was OVER and didn't matter anymore.


are both incorrect in how it is AND how it should be.

If last year didn't matter, then why is Nabraska and K-State both playing each other, undefeated and Neb is #7 and K-State is unranked? If last year didn't matter, why was Texas ranked so high at the start?

Hell, if last year didn't matter, there would be no pre-season polls.

So not only does last year matter, but it should matter, at least to some extant. How else are you supposed to compare teams that have not played each other and have no common opponents? If they played each other last year, and the both return most of their respective teams, it at least should be part of the conversation.
 
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Zander42;1787718; said:
I think Oregon is a great team and may have a ligitimate claim to the #2 spot, mostly because of our injuries on defense, but...







are both incorrect in how it is AND how it should be.

If last year didn't matter, then why is Nabraska and K-State both playing each other, undefeated and Neb is #7 and K-State is unranked? If last year didn't matter, why was Texas ranked so high at the start?

Hell, if last year didn't matter, there would be no pre-season polls.

So not only does last year matter, but it should matter, at least to some extant. How else are you supposed to compare teams that have not played each other and have no common opponents? If they played each other last year, and the both return most of their respective teams, it at least should be part of the conversation.

:wink:
 
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Zander42;1787718; said:
I think Oregon is a great team and may have a ligitimate claim to the #2 spot, mostly because of our injuries on defense, but...

are both incorrect in how it is AND how it should be.

If last year didn't matter, then why is Nabraska and K-State both playing each other, undefeated and Neb is #7 and K-State is unranked? If last year didn't matter, why was Texas ranked so high at the start?

Hell, if last year didn't matter, there would be no pre-season polls.

So not only does last year matter, but it should matter, at least to some extant. How else are you supposed to compare teams that have not played each other and have no common opponents? If they played each other last year, and the both return most of their respective teams, it at least should be part of the conversation.

once the season starts, last year rapidly becomes more and more irrelevant. But you DID post the solution and I highlighted it for you.

No pre-season polls, especially the meaningless one from the idiots in the media, would fix this entire issue.
 
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kolOhioState88;1787763; said:
how can last year not mean anything when we're still getting punished for a loss 4 years ago?

Because people are stupid? Better yet, because some things (like the Appalachian State game) are more or less permanent bell-weathers for a fan base and a team/franchise until that team erases it.

last year with 3/4th of our starters in a game and a coming of age for our qb at least means something to me

And it meant something to me too, until the season started. At this point in time, which is central so what I'm saying, what's more important is the team that is lined up in front of them than the team that was in the Rose Bowl last year.
 
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TS10HTW;1787687; said:
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Atrocious? You do realize that they're averaging 15.0 pts/gm and have given up a grand total of 7 pts in the 2nd half all year...They haven't had a murderers row of competition but at this point in the season, who has?

To date this season the OU defense is #1 in the country in turnovers gained and red zone defense, 4th in passing efficiency and 15th in scoring defense


That's hardly atrocious.


I'm a little late to this party, but the poster made a reasonable comment to which you refuted with selective stats. Truth is, Oregon ranks #52 in total defense. That's not very good for a team that supposedly deserves a #2 or #3 nat'l ranking. If defense wins championships, then it's safe to say that Coach Kelly didn't get that memo. Explosive offenses influence poll voters more than stout defenses. Exhibit A is TSUN.
 
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bucknut502;1839725; said:
They have disabled embedding on the 'Tube video.
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Transcript --

Studio Announcer - You heard what Herbie had to say, wha't your take Mark.

Mark May -- NCAA hypocritical, Big Ten Bad, Pac 10 bad, NCAA picks and chooses not to enforce matters as much as they do at SEC schools (cites AJ Green, UGA)
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If this had happened to Arkansas and Mallett he'd be gone - I'm sure of it, because I just said it.

So, NCAA wouldn't drop a grenade into the middle of the Sugar Bowl.

Studio Announcer - Yeah, we're kinda in agreement here - I mean the NCAA did play favorites ...

when they didn't drop a grenade on Auburn's season and the SEC championship game over Cam Newtown.

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The ironic juxtaposition doesn't quite reach May's mind - no surprise there really though.
 
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