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Many Minority Women In Sciences Say They Have Been Mistaken For Cleaning Or Administrative Staff

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Saw31 said:
I dream of a day when no more feelings are hurt!! We have an epidemic of hurt feelings in this country. Please, please people. Just don't saying anything to anybody anymore. It just too dangerous. Studies show a feeling is hurt every 3 seconds in this country. We can stop this with your help. All you have to do is stop talking. It is that easy. Stop talking and a save a feeling...

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The problem as i see it, is that that somewhere along the line we have developed the attitude that hurt feelings=physical harm and when there is physical harm there must be access to recourse for the injured party.

So instead of the days where you were insulted and either went and kicked someones ass OR developed the good common sense to not give a fuck what other people say or think about you, we now have adults who cry and snivel like grade school kids about someone being mean to them.

It's fucking nauseating
 
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BIATCHabutuka said:
My great aunt was in that movie.


One of the things I collect are old plastics books, generally from the 50's to the 80s or so. Most modern books don't have as good of information in them for whatever reason. Anyway, I have been slowly getting them all autographed as I meet the authors in my office. Most all of them make some joke about this movie in their autograph session.
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As weird as that is. (And trust me bro, its weird)

I was just shocked to find out that Demond Wilson... not... dead. Huh, I thought the blow got him long ago.
 
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AKAK said:
As weird as that is. (And trust me bro, its weird)

I was just shocked to find out that Demond Wilson... not... dead. Huh, I thought the blow got him long ago.
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I highly recommend asking tech types who have published for their autographs if you are in a tech industry. It shows you respect the work of those who came before you and buys you respect from them.

Every single time I have asked for an autograph, they tell me nobody has ever asked for an autograph.

Probably my favorite plastic author / hero Dr Dick Grossman even sent me a free copy of every book he has ever written, including a fiction book which he admits is horrible, all autographed.


My favorite story about Dr. Grossman, completely true.


He used to write an article for the Society of Plastics Engineers trade journal, his column at the time was called Ask Dr. Dick.

Anyway a reader writes in and asks him why he goes by the moniker of Dr. Dick instead of Dr. Grossman.

He writes a long response but then nails it at the end.

I quote here from memory as it is my favorite plastics story to tell over dinner and drinks.

After the lengthy response he closes with 'Well, I have found over the years that the ladies generally prefer Dick.'
 
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BIATCHabutuka said:
So what was the purpose of funding this study anyway? Make work for some overpaid university employee (all of which are grossly overpaid in this education bubble). Seems like propaganda more than research.
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It's a matter of some importance that the sciences and engineering become more attractive as vocations to minorities and females, since there's a lot of talent there that instead goes to less productive jobs. So it's important research.

Plenty of mescan men out there can make your sammich for you.
 
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Utter nonsense Max. Kind of like how we had to bail out GM to save all those jobs. There is only so much demand for cars, who makes them is not relevant to the level of production required by the marketplace that determines employment levels.


It doesn't matter who fills those jobs as long as they are staffed and ideally staffed by capable people. There is a market for technical skills and putting more people into the pool of applicants does nothing to stimulate demand, it only increases competition and lowers wages and salaries.

If there were actual talent there, they would be employed. There isn't and you can't make me hire these idiots, we'd rather sell the assets off and retire.
 
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Maybe these ladies and minorities wouldn't be mistaken for janitors and receptionists if they were actually doing some fucking work for a change instead of spreading gossip and bitching about people not respecting them.

Respect, unlike these losers jobs, is earned not a right. I have a woman foreman in my shop that complains that she isn't paid what her male, black male at that, counterpart makes. In a fair world she has maybe 10% of the black guy's talent and should only be paid 10% of what he earns. Sadly my owner is the most loyal man on earth and won't cut dead weight, all of which are women in my current company. Her becoming more skilled is not an option to her feeble mind.
 
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BIATCHabutuka said:
If there were actual talent there, they would be employed. There isn't and you can't make me hire these idiots, we'd rather sell the assets off and retire.
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BIATCHabutuka said:
Maybe these ladies and minorities wouldn't be mistaken for janitors and receptionists if they were actually doing some fucking work for a change instead of spreading gossip and bitching about people not respecting them instead of earning some respect.
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Talk about utter nonsense....when is the last time you looked for a job? When is the last time you were a young talented female looking for a job? Most companies can't get out of their own way when it comes to hiring talent. I am sick to death of hearing companies talk about not being able to find good talent. If they do find it they don't know how to treat it right most of the time. I find the leadership and management in most organizations and across the country sorely lacking in talent and mostly idiots. Look no further than the leadership of this Country.
 
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buckeyebri said:
Talk about utter nonsense....when is the last time you looked for a job? When is the last time you were a young talented female looking for a job? Most companies can't get out of their own way when it comes to hiring talent. I am sick to death of hearing companies talk about not being able to find good talent. If they do find it they don't know how to treat it right most of the time. I find the leadership and management in most organizations and across the country sorely lacking in talent and mostly idiots. Look no further than the leadership of this Country.
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Only been at my current job just over two years, so about 2 years ago was the last time I looked for a job.

Having skills that are in demand in the marketplace, I have been offered several jobs since without applying for them.


Never been a femaie, never felt like a woman trapped in a man's body either.


Underemployment is a serious problem, but the cause isn't racism and sexism, it is lack of opportunity in a crony capitalist / fascist society we live in. Couple this with a massive bubble in higher education that is training as many people as can pay for it with government guaranteed loans with zero regard for the actual demand for those skills and you have lots of college graduates realizing they have been lied to all their lives. It isn't just your daughter, it is widespread and chronic. Until 90% of the universities are permanently closed after the government guarantee of student debt is eliminated and the bankruptcy rights of all Americans are restored, we will always have this problem.

You are right though about companies not being able to hire talent. These HR types are wastes of flesh. One of my proudest moments was firing the HR bitch at my last job and telling her that she could reapply for her job but it would be through a temp agency.


All jokes and whatnot aside, tell your daughter to pick up a book by Jesse Edenbaum or Dick Grossman and learn the plastics business. Bioplastics are big business. That is how I solved my underemployment problem.

One word: Plastic


Agree that most companies top problem is upper management. It is amazing how many plastic companies have zero technical skills. Most tech guys aren't in actual manufacturing anymore, they are at the material vendor and so specialized that they can't solve real world process problems anymore.
 
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BIATCHabutuka said:
Maybe these ladies and minorities wouldn't be mistaken for janitors and receptionists if they were actually doing some fucking work for a change instead of spreading gossip and bitching about people not respecting them.
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Not only this, but what were these ladies wearing to get confused for custodial workers? Dress the part and mistaken identity may go away. I get asked all the time if I am in the military. You know why? My fucking sweet haircut.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Not only this, but what were these ladies wearing to get confused for custodial workers? Dress the part and mistaken identity may go away. I get asked all the time if I am in the military. You know why? My fucking sweet haircut.
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This X1000. My appearance got me into favor with my managing partners very quickly. It helps that all of the powerful people in my field are into "fucking sweet haircuts."
 
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