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Low flyover at Iowa game

JXC

17-4 since 2001
I haven't seen this article mentioned elsewhere, but I came across it today and thought of the Iowa/Ohio State game.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/03/navy_pilots_punished_031910w/

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBM8kGao_ao&feature=PlayList&p=8F731240931CEF72&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=38"]YouTube - Fly Over - Georgia Tech vs Wake Forest Football 11-07-09[/ame]

Pilots grounded for good after low flyover




NORFOLK, Va. ? Two F/A-18E Super Hornet pilots from Strike Fighter Squadron 136 have been permanently grounded for flying too low before a Georgia Tech football game Nov. 7, according to a source.
The pilots, both mid-?90s graduates of Georgia Tech, flew over Bobby Dodd Stadium in downtown Atlanta at just a few hundred feet above the stadium, under the 1,000 feet minimum required by Navy rules.
Multiple videos of the flyover, posted on YouTube, show the planes screaming low over the stadium...

I thought the Iowa flyover was pretty low...lower than 1000 feet. So I found a picture from the press box:

Kinnick+Flyover.jpg


And video:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8_QsRiaXAA&feature=related"]YouTube - Kinnick Stadium Fly Over - Field View[/ame]

Comparing it with the video from the Georgia Tech game, it looks even lower. Not saying these guys should be punished, cuz it was an awesome flyover...but I think it kind of shows how low flyovers happen all the time and how it's rediculous that those Navy pilots got grounded.

Here's one from a TCU v. Navy game...a lot lower as well!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLPC-4Mj3N8&feature=related"]YouTube - TCU at NAVY FLY BY![/ame]


And if you don't think it's a big deal that these specific Navy pilots got grounded for what seems like something that happens all the time, then the videos are at least pretty cool to watch.
 
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1-does tcu play in a high school stadium?
2-did they hit the flag pole in the tcu one? (it looks like it) [half joking]
3-im sure they were given a command as to alt and air speed, if they violated that then grounding them seems more than appropriate...
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6251943

ESPN said:
Iowa flyover pilots were too low, fast

Associated Press

IOWA CITY, Iowa -- The Air Force says six pilots who participated in a spectacular flyover before an Iowa football game have been disciplined for flying too low and too fast. The lead pilot is giving up his right to fly military aircraft.

The Air Force says the four Talon T-38 Trainer jets flew just 16 feet above the stadium's press box when they wowed 70,000 fans inside Kinnick Stadium before Iowa hosted Ohio State on Nov. 20.

cont.
 
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JXC;1825647; said:
Here's one from a TCU v. Navy game...a lot lower as well!

YouTube - TCU at NAVY FLY BY!


And if you don't think it's a big deal that these specific Navy pilots got grounded for what seems like something that happens all the time, then the videos are at least pretty cool to watch.

The two pilots doing the TCU/Navy fly-by should be grounded, if anyone should be. Both were using afterburners and the second plane swooped down inside the stadium radius, below the top of the pressbox (the video loops through the fly-by three times, so check how low the plane in the second, fourth, and sixth fly-by is).
 
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"What was the slowest you ever flew the Blackbird?"
Brian Shul, Retired SR-71 Pilot, via Plane and Pilot Magazine

As a former SR-71 pilot, and a professional keynote speaker, the
question I'm most often asked is "How fast would that SR-71 fly?" I can
be assured of hearing that question several times at any event I attend.
It's an interesting question, given the aircraft's proclivity for speed,
but there really isn't one number to give, as the jet would always give
you a little more speed if you wanted it to. It was common to see 35
miles a minute. Because we flew a programmed Mach number on most
missions, and never wanted to harm the plane in any way, we never let it
run out to any limits of temperature or speed. Thus, each SR-71 pilot
had his own individual high speed that he saw at some point on some
mission. I saw mine over Libya when Khadafy fired two missiles my way,
and max power was in order. Let's just say that the plane truly loved
speed, and effortlessly took us to Mach numbers we hadn't previously
seen.

So it was with great surprise, when, at the end of one of my
presentations, someone asked: What was the slowest you ever flew the
Blackbird? This was a first. After giving it some thought, I was
reminded of a story I had never shared before, and relayed the
following:

I was flying the SR-71 out of RAF Mildenhall, England, with my
back-seater, Walt Watson; we were returning from a mission over Europe
and the Iron Curtain, when we received a radio transmission from home
base. As we scooted across Denmark in three minutes, we learned that a
small RAF base in the English countryside had requested an SR-71
fly-past. The air cadet commander there was a former Blackbird pilot,
and thought it would be a motivating moment for the young lads to see
the mighty SR-71 perform a low approach. No problem; we were happy to do
it. After a quick aerial refueling over the North Sea, we proceeded to
find the small airfield.

Walter had a myriad of sophisticated navigation equipment in the back
seat, and began to vector me toward the field. Descending to subsonic
speeds, we found ourselves over a densely wooded area in a slight haze.
Like most former WWII British airfields, the one we were looking for had
a small tower and little surrounding infrastructure. Walter told me we
were close, and that I should be able to see the field, but I saw
nothing. Nothing but trees as far as I could see in the haze. We got a
little lower, and I pulled the throttles back from the 325 knots we were at.
With the gear up, anything under 275 was just uncomfortable. Walt said
we were practically over the field, yet there was nothing in my
windscreen. I banked the jet and started a gentle circling maneuver in
hopes of picking up anything that looked like a field. Meanwhile,
below, the cadet commander had taken the cadets up on the catwalk of the
tower, in order to get a prime view of the fly-past. It was a quiet,
still day, with no wind and partial gray overcast. Walter continued to
give me indications that the field should be below us, but, in the
overcast and haze, I couldn't see it. The longer we continued to peer
out the window and circle, the slower we got. With our power back, the
awaiting cadets heard nothing. I must have had good instructors in my
flying career, as something told me I better cross-check the gauges. As
I noticed the airspeed indicator slide below 160 knots, my heart
stopped, and my adrenalin-filled left hand pushed two throttles full
forward. At this point, we weren't really flying, but were falling in a
slight bank. Just at the moment, both afterburners lit with a
thunderous roar of flame (and what a joyous feeling that was), and the
aircraft fell into full view of the shocked observers on the tower.
Shattering the still quiet of that morning, they now had 107 feet of
fire-breathing titanium in their face, as the plane leveled and
accelerated, in full burner, on the tower side of the infield, closer
than expected, maintaining what could only be described as some sort of
ultimate knife-edge pass.

Quickly reaching the field boundary, we proceeded back to Mildenhall
without incident. We didn't say a word for those next 14 minutes.
After landing, our commander greeted us, and we were both certain he was
reaching for our wings. Instead, he heartily shook our hands and said
the commander had told him it was the greatest SR-71 fly-past he had
ever seen, especially how we had surprised them with such a precise
maneuver that could only be described as breathtaking. He said that
some of the cadets' hats were blown off, and the sight of the plan form
of the plane in full afterburner, dropping right in front of them, was
unbelievable. Walt and I both understood the concept of breathtaking
very well, that morning, and sheepishly replied that they were just
excited to see our low approach.

As we retired to the equipment room to change from space suits to flight
suits, we just sat there: We hadn't spoken a word since the pass.
Finally, Walter looked at me and said, "One hundred fifty-six knots.
What did you see?" Trying to find my voice, I stammered, "One hundred
fifty-two." We sat in silence for a moment. Then Walt said, "Don't
ever do that to me again!" And I never did.

A year later, Walter and I were having lunch in the Mildenhall Officers'
club, and overheard an officer talking to some cadets about an SR-71
fly-past that he had seen, one day. Of course, by now the story
included kids falling off the tower, and screaming as the heat of the jet
singed their eyebrows. Noticing our Habu patches, as we stood there with
lunch trays in our hands, he asked us to verify to the cadets that such
a thing had occurred. Walt just shook his head and said, "It was
probably just a routine low approach; they're pretty impressive in that
plane". Impressive indeed.

Little did I realize, after relaying this experience to my audience that
day, that it would become one of the most popular and most requested
stories. It's ironic that people are interested in how slow the world's
fastest jet can fly. Regardless of your speed, however, it's always a
good idea to keep that cross-check up -- and keep your Mach up, too.

Anyone who's been deployed probably has stories of low flybys that put anything you'll ever see stateside to shame (I think it would be hard to top the B-52/USS Ranger flybys though).
 
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That's a really neat story. Thanks for sharing Muck!

I know my grandfather was a pilot/gunner in WWII. He had stories about him flying, shooting, girls when he was over there. Pretty crazy stuff.
 
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I was at the Browns game right after Al Lerner died, I was sitting in the endzone opposite the dog pound, and that flyover was also well less than 1000 ft. I felt like I could reach up and touch them and it looked like they barely cleared the top of the stadium. It was one of the most awesome things I have ever seen...
 
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Muck;1897036; said:
"What was the slowest you ever flew the Blackbird?"
Brian Shul, Retired SR-71 Pilot, via Plane and Pilot Magazine



Anyone who's been deployed probably has stories of low flybys that put anything you'll ever see stateside to shame (I think it would be hard to top the B-52/USS Ranger flybys though).


My dad tells a story of when he was in the Air Force. I'm not sure where he was stationed when this happened but it was either Germany or potentially Libia???

Either way, back in the day, one of the things that guys did to keep from going nuts was take pictures... and pictures of planes. One day, as he tells the story, this crazy looking black plane that nobody had ever seen before lands at their strip. It was the sleekest thing anyone had ever seen. To them it looked otherwordly.

Everyone went running back to get their cameras to take pictures. After all the men were snapping shots of this thing an intelligence officer came out to the group. He then took all the cameras and one by one opened them up and pulled the film... exposing it to the bright light... never to be developed...

... and so it goes.
 
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BuckeyeMac;1897893; said:
Now in that #1, whats the reason the water is being shot up like that? I know the engines, but why?

If you mean the shock wave compression cloud around the tail of the jet, it's because it was pushing through the sound barrier. The water wake behind the jet is caused by that shock wave, not by the engine exhaust. Don't know where that was taken, but breaking the sound barrier in a populated area like that bay is verbotten in the US.
 
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