Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

[Jaxbuck]

I assume CBA is a collective bargaining agreement. I'm not smart enough to know what that has to do with restricting things.
But that's fine.
I still think that if someone wants to restrict which team a player is on, we'd have to make a true minor league system. Take the teams away from the schools. But of course, I'm sure none of us wants that.

yes CBA = Collective Bargaining Agreement It gives the worker a voice in what rights they give away in return for whatever benefits they bargain for. To have one, they must be an employee and a union member as I understand basic labor law.

People wanting to restrict movement of college football players as the market stands right now are advocating disregarding basic concepts of labor law.

Put the word "coal miner" in for college football player.
-A group of mine owners gets together and decides that paying so much for labor is bad for business
-They buy some politicians
-The politicians come up with a scheme, in the best interest of the miners themselves of course, to restrict movement/income.

That's collusion and that's been settled since the late 19th century. You can't do this shit to people.

It makes zero difference what the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL or whoever else do. They have the employee/employer structure, unions and a CBA. College football does not. The players are just individual contributors, like coal miner, that get to choose which mine they work for and are free to change mines as often as they please if the money is better at another mine.

 

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[Bestbuck36]

yes CBA = Collective Bargaining Agreement It gives the worker a voice in what rights they give away in return for whatever benefits they bargain for. To have one, they must be an employee and a union member as I understand basic labor law.

People wanting to restrict movement of college football players as the market stands right now are advocating disregarding basic concepts of labor law.

Put the word "coal miner" in for college football player.
-A group of mine owners gets together and decides that paying so much for labor is bad for business
-They buy some politicians
-The politicians come up with a scheme, in the best interest of the miners themselves of course, to restrict movement/income.

That's collusion and that's been settled since the late 19th century. You can't do this shit to people.

It makes zero difference what the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL or whoever else do. They have the employee/employer structure, unions and a CBA. College football does not. The players are just individual contributors, like coal miner, that get to choose which mine they work for and are free to change mines as often as they please if the money is better at another mine.

Totally agree with your points and appreciate the dumbing down for an old pecker wood, like me.

The biggest question for me is where does the 'Letter of Intent' come into play? Does that not constitute a work contract between the athlete and the institution when they sign it?

 

[Trevi]

Totally agree with your points and appreciate the dumbing down for an old pecked wood, like me.

The biggest question for me is where does the 'Letter of Intent' come into play? Does that not constitute a work contract between the athlete and the institution when they sign it?

I believe at one time in the not too distant past the schools only admitted to one year at a time to the athletic scholarship. The BIG 10 committed to all four year scholarships in 2014. The remaining Power 5 conferences followed that in around 2015. As I recall, Nick for one was pretty infamous for not renewing scholarships to players that were not performing up to expectations.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Totally agree with your points and appreciate the dumbing down for an old pecked wood, like me.

The biggest question for me is where does the 'Letter of Intent' come into play? Does that not constitute a work contract between the athlete and the institution when they sign it?

I am not a lawyer and have never seen an actual LOI agreement for college football but they are not the same thing as an employment agreement in the real world.

LOI in CFB means I agree to come play football for you in return for a scholarship. It binds both sides to do whatever is in the agreement. That’s why guys have to be”released” from them.

As @Trevi said above, and I mentioned in one of my anti common sense posts, these have been 1 year deals between player and school for the majority of CFB history. It was just the other way around so now that the schools and their lobby are trying to do what’s best for the sport-they don’t mention that so much.

This is the modern coal mine owners working together to buy politicians and control the cost of labor so they can keep control of the tv money. They know that only 20-30 teams are big enough brands to survive in a world of year to year free agent bidding wars and that even then , those teams cannot carry the expense of the 30 some odd teams at the university that don’t make money.

This is the fight for how it’s going to go forward. Old owners find a way to still control it or it totally blows up and changes (imo).