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Wonder how long until players start suing to be able to get into the transfer portal again after spring. Guessing a couple of months from now.
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TampaBuckeyes
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In this case gods plan is just a way of escaping responsibility for your actions.
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Captain Buckeye
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HS kids will have to learn that unless you’re game changing you aren’t making shit and you’d better stay put for years 1-2. Years 3-5 is where all the money is going.
As was pointed out. If these kids don’t adjust they’re going to end up out of football by the age of 20. I wonder what long term impact this will have on kids.
As was pointed out. If these kids don’t adjust they’re going to end up out of football by the age of 20. I wonder what long term impact this will have on kids.
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I think like most things in life, it depends on the family dynamic and socioeconomic standing of the kid. And unfortunately many of these poor urban and rural kids, sports is the way out for many of them. Without it, many would be back at the local factory, construction site, some type of dead end job and hopefully not ending up on illegal means. For many family’s sad to say, this kid is the hope for them to have some type of family financial success. A lot of pressure for a teenager.
But I agree that a number of kids would’ve been better off staying at their first school.
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Captain Buckeye
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They’re certainly going to have to adjust. Unless you’re a can’t miss kids really need to consider going to either a big time school to wait it out or even to a lower level to play right away.
Maybe if a four star kid went to Ohio University they’d play and do well? Then year two there’s likely a bunch of interested programs
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the cat is already out of the bag, but I really wish the portal would have developed into what it should have been.
Hot Shot high school kid gives it a shot at a top tier school, but isn't quite good enough, drop down to a G5 or FCS school. No shame in being good enough to play there but not at an elite football school.
High School kid flying under the radar, maybe a late bloomer type goes to small school first and is ready to make the jump? Absolutely, give the kid a shot.
but this jumping around with a bunch of "lateral" moves?
nah fuck that.
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I suspect a lot of smaller schools might be trimming their roster sizes some to make more money available for NIL. Scholarships, food, housing, medical, travel, it adds up. There are a lot of unused scholarship spots in the Big Ten.
It will get worse as the grandfathered walk-ons start to age out and their roster spots just disappear.
It will get worse as the grandfathered walk-ons start to age out and their roster spots just disappear.
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billmac91
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College football is “mirroring” college wrestling in many regards. NCAA increased scholarship count to (30) for P4 conferences….up from (10ish) they used to have.
On the surface, it appeared that would help more kids get scholarship opportunity. The opposite has happened though….where schools used to carry up to 50 wrestlers that could get partial scholarships, now it’s reduced to exactly 30. When that is multiplied across all programs, you see a huge net decrease in wrestlers on teams.
Division I football teams can now disperse up to 105 scholarships (in an increase from the 85 limit).
Very few teams will carry more than 75-80 scholarship players anymore because of NIL. We are going to see fewer DI players with a 105 limit, than when the limit was 85, because of NIL.
On the surface, it appeared that would help more kids get scholarship opportunity. The opposite has happened though….where schools used to carry up to 50 wrestlers that could get partial scholarships, now it’s reduced to exactly 30. When that is multiplied across all programs, you see a huge net decrease in wrestlers on teams.
Division I football teams can now disperse up to 105 scholarships (in an increase from the 85 limit).
Very few teams will carry more than 75-80 scholarship players anymore because of NIL. We are going to see fewer DI players with a 105 limit, than when the limit was 85, because of NIL.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Dabo Swinney goes scorched earth on Pete Golding, Ole Miss over tampering claims
Clemson's Dabo Swinney pubically called out Ole Miss and Pete Golding over tampering with a recruit, and said he's spoken with the NCAA.awfulannouncing.com
NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change
Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch
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NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change
Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch
Jon Duncan, the NCAA's vice president of enforcement, announced in a memo sent to NCAA schools that the Division I Board of Directors has informed its staff to "pursue significant penalties" against tampering offenders along with publicly identifying those found guilty of wrongdoing, according to Yahoo Sports.Duncan wrote in the memo that the NCAA is working closely with Geoff Means, the chair of the Division I Board of Directors Infractions Process Committee, to quickly address violations.
"It is our sincerest hope that these potential policy and rules changes will better serve the new era of Division I while balancing fairness and efficiency to meet membership expectations," the memo said, according to the report.
Within the memo, the process includes "streamlining various stages of an investigation, collecting information from schools or student-athletes more quickly, conducting interviews on a shorter schedule and/or limiting extension requests often made by parties in infractions cases."
This heavy-handed announcement from the NCAA comes after Clemson coach Dabo Swinney accused Ole Miss and Pete Golding of tampering transfer portal signee Luke Ferrelli. Ferrelli re-entered the transfer portal and committed to Ole Miss after initially landing at Clemson.
"We have a broken system, and if there are no consequences for tampering, then we have no rules and we have no governance," Swinney said last month.
Within a screenshot of the memo posted on social media, Duncan identified tampering as falling under the label of "communications of any kind are not permitted with a student-athlete at another school -- or any other representatives of their interests, including agents -- before that student-athlete entered the NCAA transfer portal."
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Just sayin': This will go nowhere. No guilty party (i.e. the school, the coach, the player, not the player's agent, etc.) will ever cooperate with the NCAA's investigation. The NCAA won't be able to prove anything.
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They will strongly object to tampering now.NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change
Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branchNCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change
Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch
Jon Duncan, the NCAA's vice president of enforcement, announced in a memo sent to NCAA schools that the Division I Board of Directors has informed its staff to "pursue significant penalties" against tampering offenders along with publicly identifying those found guilty of wrongdoing, according to Yahoo Sports.
Duncan wrote in the memo that the NCAA is working closely with Geoff Means, the chair of the Division I Board of Directors Infractions Process Committee, to quickly address violations.
"It is our sincerest hope that these potential policy and rules changes will better serve the new era of Division I while balancing fairness and efficiency to meet membership expectations," the memo said, according to the report.
Within the memo, the process includes "streamlining various stages of an investigation, collecting information from schools or student-athletes more quickly, conducting interviews on a shorter schedule and/or limiting extension requests often made by parties in infractions cases."
This heavy-handed announcement from the NCAA comes after Clemson coach Dabo Swinney accused Ole Miss and Pete Golding of tampering transfer portal signee Luke Ferrelli. Ferrelli re-entered the transfer portal and committed to Ole Miss after initially landing at Clemson.
"We have a broken system, and if there are no consequences for tampering, then we have no rules and we have no governance," Swinney said last month.
Within a screenshot of the memo posted on social media, Duncan identified tampering as falling under the label of "communications of any kind are not permitted with a student-athlete at another school -- or any other representatives of their interests, including agents -- before that student-athlete entered the NCAA transfer portal."
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Just sayin': This will go nowhere. No guilty party (i.e. the school, the coach, the player, not the player's agent, etc.) will ever cooperate with the NCAA's investigation. The NCAA won't be able to prove anything.
They are done just simply objecting to tampering.
Northeast by Southwest directional schools better watch their asses. The NCAA is coming in hot.
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BuckBackHome
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
NCAA Proposes Significant Penalties for Coaches, Programs Taking Transfers Outside Portal
Transfers have once again been a subject of major offseason strife in college football. The issue hit a peak in late January when Clemson coach Dabo Swinney too
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NCAA Proposes Significant Penalties for Coaches, Programs Taking Transfers Outside Portal
Transfer recruiting outside of the single January portal window became a significant issue this offseason.Transfers have once again been a subject of major offseason strife in college football. The issue hit a peak in late January when Clemson coach Dabo Swinney took public aim at new Ole Miss coach Pete Golding, calling him out for tampering with linebacker Luke Ferrelli—who had recently transferred in from Cal—alleging that Golding was texting him during early morning classes asking about the buyout in his deal with Clemson. Ferrelli, who joined Clemson on Jan. 7 during the open transfer portal, transferred again to Ole Miss on Jan. 22, just under a week after the closure of the portal on Jan. 16.
“We turned everything into the NCAA,” Swinney said. “There’s tampering and then there’s blatant tampering.”
And now it appears that the NCAA is moving forward on dealing with said tampering. The NCAA Division I FBS oversight committee released a recommendation for emergency legislation to punish coaches and schools for taking transfers outside of the portal period, and the proposals are quite punitive. From the NCAA:
- The head coach would be prohibited from all football (recruiting and on-field coaching) and administrative duties (team meetings) for six contests.
- The school would be fined 20% of its football budget.
- The school would be required to reduce the number of roster spots by five for the next season, regardless of the head coach's employment status at the school.
“We felt this was appropriate to place an emphasis on this rule with where we are in Division I football,” said Buffalo athletic director Mark Alnutt, chair of the committee. “We have a window for student-athletes to notify their school when they would like to enter the Transfer Portal. If there is movement without going through the process as it is legislated, the committee felt there needed to be significant penalties.”
Sources: NCAA football committee considering 7-figure fines, head coach suspensions for transfer violations
The NCAA Football Oversight Committee coalesced around several concepts related to the calendar and transfers, including a proposal to impose stiff penalties on schools that accept transfers outside of the portal window.
Some collegiate conferences may no longer need the NCAA to govern them
The most significant of the concepts — penalties levied on a school and head coach for accepting a transfer outside of the portal window — stands to limit any movement this spring and could spark legal challenges from players and/or schools this spring and summer who wish to switch schools or who recruit a player to their school. The NCAA moved from two portals — December and April — to a single January portal this year.The penalties may serve as deterrents for schools that wish to enhance their rosters with players from other schools after spring practice by partaking in what is described as “blind transferring” — when a player unenrolls at one school and enrolls at another outside of the portal window. The 15-day portal window in January is meant to be the only route in which players can communicate with coaches from another school without university staff members violating the NCAA’s tampering bylaws.
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