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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

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NFBuck said:
I'd feel a lot better about this if he spared us the "NE Ohio Boy Making Good" horse[Mark May]. Lets call it what it is-- you saw your empire was crumbling in South Beach, and couldn't go anywhere else lest you be seen as a mercenary. The Cavs presented the better option, because they have a talented young roster, ironically due to your betrayal four years earlier, and the added benefit of the redemption angle. It's a marketing homerun and gives you a chance to win more rings. Just don't insult my intelligence by pretending to humbly ask my forgiveness, asshole. You're a smart business man, an opportunist, and the best in the world right now at what you do. Just shut up and win games.
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Fungo Squiggly said:
GPA. How can we sit here and argue that joining the Cavs makes more sense because they have a better chance of winning when he has been persistently lambasted as a coward for choosing Miami for that same reason. If not for all of the young talent that will help him win, he would not be picking CLE.

Still looking for the easy path, it just happens to pass through Cleveland got once.
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I see it a bit differently. I see it kinda like Bonasera approaching Don Corleone. Yes, he's coming back to Cleveland because it's convenient from a career and legacy standpoint. Yes, he humbled himself in the SI essay. But the question I have as a fan is, what did we ever do to have him treat us so disrespectfully up until now? If he had treated us with respect before (and I'm not just talking about The Decision, but the way he flirted with free agency and held it over Cleveland's head for nearly three years) then even in leaving we would still have very little mistrust or reservations about his intentions.

I don't want to doubt the sincerity of his announcement and the essay. On the surface, it's as classy as previous free agent announcement was insulting. I just can't help but ask though, he was in Cleveland for many years, why did it take until now to stop holding the fans and the city, and the region at arm's length?
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
If Dwade goes to Chicago (which it would be all 3 guys going back to their home town, so it really could happen and make sense), I will die. Just absolutely die.
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Oh God. Make it stop. I can only take so much schadenfreude. :slappy:

It would also be great from another perspective...I hate the Bulls. Can you imagine Diane and Rose on the same team? Maybe the two most fragile players in the league?
 
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jlb1705 said:
I see it a bit differently. I see it kinda like Bonasera approaching Don Corleone. Yes, he's coming back to Cleveland because it's convenient from a career and legacy standpoint. Yes, he humbled himself in the SI essay. But the question I have as a fan is, what did we ever do to have him treat us so disrespectfully up until now? If he had treated us with respect before (and I'm not just talking about The Decision, but the way he flirted with free agency and held it over Cleveland's head for nearly three years) then even in leaving we would still have very little mistrust or reservations about his intentions.

I don't want to doubt the sincerity of his announcement and the essay. On the surface, it's as classy as previous free agent announcement was insulting. I just can't help but ask though, he was in Cleveland for many years, why did it take until now to stop holding the fans and the city, and the region at arm's length?
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Marketing.

Also, LeQuit, don't think you quitting against Boston has slipped my mind. Maybe I'm petty, but there's still more reasons to say "fuck this guy" than reasons for being happy right now. Maybe that'll change when they start winning games...
 
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NFBuck said:
Marketing.
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Well, yeah. But at least fake sincerity is better than thinly veiled contempt.

NFBuck said:
Also, LeQuit, don't think you quitting against Boston has slipped my mind. Maybe I'm petty, but there's still more reasons to say "fuck this guy" than reasons for being happy right now. Maybe that'll change when they start winning games...
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This. The essay was a start for me. As a fan, he has to show me more because his sins were grave.
 
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NFBuck said:
Here's the "kill shot." You're welcome...

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1334015&start=480
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Actually, the posts from before the announcement are better.

"Bottom line in my opinion is that it's going to be a lot harder for LeBron to say goodbye to Riley, Wade, Bosh, Miami fans who he won titles with. People that embraced him and took him to the top.

A lot harder to leave than than it is to go back to a fan base that burned his jersey, and an owner that tried to publicly humiliate him. I've thought the Heat all along, the Cavs thing doesn't make any sense at all."
 
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jlb1705 said:
I don't want to doubt the sincerity of his announcement and the essay. On the surface, it's as classy as previous free agent announcement was insulting. I just can't help but ask though, he was in Cleveland for many years, why did it take until now to stop holding the fans and the city, and the region at arm's length?
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He (and his inner circle) were all 25 years old. Probably not the whole of it, but I think 'young & stupid' is more believable than 'willfully malicious'.

He was obviously swept up in the Garnett & Allen to Boston hype too and saw his own window for a shot at rings the easy way.
 
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jebussmurf said:
Actually, the posts from before the announcement are better.

"Bottom line in my opinion is that it's going to be a lot harder for LeBron to say goodbye to Riley, Wade, Bosh, Miami fans who he won titles with. People that embraced him and took him to the top.

A lot harder to leave than than it is to go back to a fan base that burned his jersey, and an owner that tried to publicly humiliate him. I've thought the Heat all along, the Cavs thing doesn't make any sense at all."
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Oh, no doubt. But after they came to the realization he was, in fact, gone...you could feel the life sucked out of them. Much like it was here four years earlier.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Don't think for two picoseconds that this would be unfolding right now had Miami beat San Antonio...
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He knew it was over in Miami and he might as well go someplace with good young players that will be able to carry him through the end of his career. On the other hand is there any doubt that the Cavs are a better team now than they would have been if he hadn't spent the last 4 years in Miami?
 
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