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LB Raekwon McMillan (Official Thread)

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Buckeye86 said:
I call BS on the turnovers thing.

1) Other than Laurinaitis against Texas in 2006 I can't recall a linebacker making a huge difference in a big game in the turnover department.

2) Who really cares where the turnovers come from (or if they happen at all) if the defense is playing well and the team is winning games.

To say that Raekwon himself must create turnovers is pretty dumb.
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The measuring stick - Chris Spielman -

 
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OregonBuckeye said:
Yes, but turnover margin is one of the most important factors in winning football games. Creating turnovers should always be a priority.
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Hstead said:
The measuring stick - Chris Spielman -

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Meanwhile, the LBs as a group had a combined total of 5 ints, 3 forced fumbles and no fumble recoveries in 2002.

In 2014 the LBs as a group had 5 ints, 2 forced fumbles and 3 fumbles recovered.

Laurinaitis had 5 interceptions and 3 forced fumbles by himself in 2006.

In summary, creating more turnovers is a stupid thing to declare an individual LB must improve upon.
 
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MaxBuck said:
That's certainly true, and one must have that intent, but whether or not it's successful is largely random.
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It is not random or so much time wouldn't be spent on related drills. Turnovers are generally a function of pressure or the ability to hit a ball carrier a certain way (i.e. put a helmet on the ball). What way the ball bounces and who recovers is somewhat random but the initial cause is not. Players need to catch the balls that are thrown poorly, they need to read the quarterback and the developing play, they need to track the ball carrier.......
 
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greyscarlet said:
To pin creating turnovers on an individual does seem very inappropriate as the pressure initiating the turnover and who actually gets the credit for the turnover is usually different. A turnover is a team event caused by multiple prepared players.
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And that's the point and why its stupid to say that Kwon needs to improve in that area. Joey's stats were way down last year but he was just as valuable. When the front 7 are sound and disciplined, it will force third and long. If they create pressure then suddenly Conley or Ward or Hooker will be racking up turnovers.

Tyvis had a number of big turnovers. He wasn't close to some of the other dbs in overall execution and level of play.

Kwon needs to become more consistent at shedding blocks, filling the right gap, getting the proper drop in coverage (all things he does sometimes ). That will make him a great lb. The turnovers are reliant on too many other factors.
 
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Turnovers happen when every player is on his assignment. Pressure caused by that precision makes the other team make mistakes. We have more turnovers when our guys are in the "right place at the right time" and make a play. As long as Kwon is always in the right place, his time will come. I don't care if he doesn't get turnovers this year if he breaks the 120 tackle mark and is leading the youngsters out there. I think he's in line for some big time accolades this year.
 
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Hmmmmmm, how about "turnovers MAY determine the outcome of a game"? Just off the top of my head the Bucks won the NC despite losing the turnover battle. Likewise they lost to Sparty despite winning the turnover battle.

Teams work on turnovers - on both sides of the ball - so obviously coaches believe that turnovers CAN be a factor in who wins and who loses, but winning or losing the turn over battle MAY or MAY NOT translate into victory.
 
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