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Kid has DWI, kills 4 pedestrians, says he suffers from "affluenza"...gets probation

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Bucklion said:
Probation for killing 4 people in a drunken stupor? I'd say it's pretty close.
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What were the other options? (My point wasn't that it seemed appropriate, my point was that I don't know what was... ). I mean, was the other option to lock him up until he was 18 and turn him loose on the street instead of basically committing the kid until then. (is that what's happening, even). Of course then the issue becomes that because his parents can affored the 400K a year to send him to a place that may actually be able to help him... that perpetuates the problem. The prosecution was asking for 20 years I think? I'm not sure what purpose that serves other than to get him off the street (and that might be a perfectly good purpose). I don't see much of a deterrent factor though, drunk driving 16 year-olds on Valium don't tend to think a whole lot about consequences either way. Of course the reality is you can't fix shitty parenting by punishing that kid.

Lets meet them, shall we?

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/12/teen-drunk-driver-ethan-couch-rich-house-affluenza-texas/

More mullet than you were expecting, huh.


BayBuck said:
But it's also the cause!
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Well, I made my statement with all appropriate irony. (Though, I think your author was blaming it on that bastard Blatcher)
 
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AKAK said:
What were the other options? (My point wasn't that it seemed appropriate, my point was that I don't know what was... ). I mean, was the other option to lock him up until he was 18 and turn him loose on the street instead of basically committing the kid until then. (is that what's happening, even). Of course then the issue becomes that because his parents can affored the 400K a year to send him to a place that may actually be able to help him... that perpetuates the problem. The prosecution was asking for 20 years I think? I'm not sure what purpose that serves other than to get him off the street (and that might be a perfectly good purpose). I don't see much of a deterrent factor though, drunk driving 16 year-olds on Valium don't tend to think a whole lot about consequences either way. Of course the reality is you can't fix [Mark May]ty parenting by punishing that kid.
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There needs to be consequences for actions as heinous as this. Fuck "rehabilitation"...fuck "correction". Punish his ass...
 
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AKAK said:
What were the other options? (My point wasn't that it seemed appropriate, my point was that I don't know what was... ). I mean, was the other option to lock him up until he was 18 and turn him loose on the street instead of basically committing the kid until then. (is that what's happening, even). Of course then the issue becomes that because his parents can affored the 400K a year to send him to a place that may actually be able to help him... that perpetuates the problem. The prosecution was asking for 20 years I think? I'm not sure what purpose that serves other than to get him off the street (and that might be a perfectly good purpose). I don't see much of a deterrent factor though, drunk driving 16 year-olds on Valium don't tend to think a whole lot about consequences either way. Of course the reality is you can't fix [Mark May]ty parenting by punishing that kid.

Lets meet them, shall we?

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/12/teen-drunk-driver-ethan-couch-rich-house-affluenza-texas/

More mullet than you were expecting, huh.




Well, I made my statement with all appropriate irony. (Though, I think your author was blaming it on that bastard Blatcher)
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As Mili says above, punishment isn't just about deterrence...but one thing is for sure, is that if one spoiled rich kid gets away with no jail time because he was a spoiled rich kid, we will never be safe on the roads with any spoiled rich kid, because, hey, shit, I killed someone, no big deal, I ain't going to jail. That sort of thing. The alternative was, yes, I think 10-20 in prison. I think that is more appropriate for killing 4 people. And I sure as fuckfire don't think that some 400k/yr resort where he might have to lay off the booze is any kind of punishment for reckless homicide.
 
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Bucklion said:
As Mili says above, punishment isn't just about deterrence...but one thing is for sure, is that if one spoiled rich kid gets away with no jail time because he was a spoiled rich kid, we will never be safe on the roads with any spoiled rich kid, because, hey, [Mark May], I killed someone, no big deal, I ain't going to jail. That sort of thing. The alternative was, yes, I think 10-20 in prison. I think that is more appropriate for killing 4 people. And I sure as fuckfire don't think that some 400k/yr resort where he might have to lay off the booze is any kind of punishment for reckless homicide.
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What about the spoiled rich kids with no records yet?

(PS, I wouldn't have any problem with 10 years)


Bucklion said:
:rofl: the WHAT? the ironing???
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Elf on the Shelf is making himself useful.
 
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Bucklion said:
No records in terms of....? Not sure I follow.
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I'm just saying, there's always the first time. I presumably this kid hadn't killed multiple people prior to this, ergo, back to my point that you can't fix bad parenting, in response you your comment "we won't be safe on the road with any spoiled rich kid" - At any rate, I suppose the point being, whatever his punishment was, aside, I'm perfectly happy with people suing their balls to the wall. I'm sure the fact that he was driving a company vehicle at the time won't hurt.

Of course, its a double edged sword, and not to make this into a class issue (as much as we've used "spoiled rich kid") but, this kid didn't have much more of a chance than a kid who is poor or in poverty to do the right thing, it seems to me from where I'm sitting (and its not a good view, admittedly). On the other hand, suing the parents of the kid in poverty is usually a waste of time. (To put it another way, its harder to find a lawyer that will take it on contingency)
 
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I'm sure the parents have already placed their assets into an irrevocable trust or other asset protection vehicle. A civil suit may not get the amounts that the victims deserve...

That kid should be in fucking prison. I'd love for a poor kid from a single parent household to use a defense of "poorfluenzia" where he never had resources or guidance to 'know better' because he never faced consequences of his actions. Yea I'm sure that would pass as a legit defense.
 
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AKAK said:
What were the other options? (My point wasn't that it seemed appropriate, my point was that I don't know what was... ). I mean, was the other option to lock him up until he was 18 and turn him loose on the street instead of basically committing the kid until then. (is that what's happening, even). Of course then the issue becomes that because his parents can affored the 400K a year to send him to a place that may actually be able to help him... that perpetuates the problem. The prosecution was asking for 20 years I think? I'm not sure what purpose that serves other than to get him off the street (and that might be a perfectly good purpose). I don't see much of a deterrent factor though, drunk driving 16 year-olds on Valium don't tend to think a whole lot about consequences either way. Of course the reality is you can't fix [Mark May]ty parenting by punishing that kid.

Lets meet them, shall we?

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/12/teen-drunk-driver-ethan-couch-rich-house-affluenza-texas/

More mullet than you were expecting, huh.




Well, I made my statement with all appropriate irony. (Though, I think your author was blaming it on that bastard Blatcher)
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He's drinking (an adult thing to do) driving a work truck (an adult thing to do) transporting multiple people (an adult thing to do)

Only fair he gets tried as an adult. Affluenza would be cured really fast in jail.
 
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