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Kevin Sumlin (OC Maryland Terrapins)

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jakenick06 said:
It's not limited to just "the South" ....unfortunately.
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No - you're right. And the fact that it exists at all is unfortunate. North, south, overseas, whatever. I think the reason I brought that up is that from what I've heard (again, probably not entirely accurate representation), the south is MUCH more tolerant of the racism. But yeah - I'd imagine that Romeo Crennel was hearing this when he was the Browns' head coach, which, again, is unfortunate.

I find it odd - how can someone be a football fan and be a racist? Would someone want to root for the whitest team in the country? And only cheer when a white guy scores? If you're really that racist, then you shouldn't be a fan. Or be happy when the guys you don't like fail. Weird.
 
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Zurp said:
No - you're right. And the fact that it exists at all is unfortunate. North, south, overseas, whatever. I think the reason I brought that up is that from what I've heard (again, probably not entirely accurate representation), the south is MUCH more tolerant of the racism. But yeah - I'd imagine that Romeo Crennel was hearing this when he was the Browns' head coach, which, again, is unfortunate.

I find it odd - how can someone be a football fan and be a racist? Would someone want to root for the whitest team in the country? And only cheer when a white guy scores? If you're really that racist, then you shouldn't be a fan. Or be happy when the guys you don't like fail. Weird.
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this is a good point and I have wondered this before. when i was younger we had HBO and there was a documentary on about white supremacy/white nationalism type stuff. the reporter actually went into one of these clubs/groups/whatever to see what day to day life was like. well one of these fuckers was always wearing a georgetown hat and i always thought that was the craziest thing. i mean it wasn't like gtown was known by their bball team who was lead by big ole John Thompson. ok threadjack over
 
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Zurp said:
No - you're right. And the fact that it exists at all is unfortunate. North, south, overseas, whatever. I think the reason I brought that up is that from what I've heard (again, probably not entirely accurate representation), the south is MUCH more tolerant of the racism. But yeah - I'd imagine that Romeo Crennel was hearing this when he was the Browns' head coach, which, again, is unfortunate.

I find it odd - how can someone be a football fan and be a racist? Would someone want to root for the whitest team in the country? And only cheer when a white guy scores? If you're really that racist, then you shouldn't be a fan. Or be happy when the guys you don't like fail. Weird.
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I have no idea. It'a a great game with a bunch of people working to achieve greatness. The only colors I might discriminate against are on the jerseys.
 
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Steve19 said:
Until 1980 or so, the American Nazi Party and the Ku Klux Klan had their national HQs in Indianapolis.
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Do you even Fear & Loathing On The Campaign Trail, Bro? The good Doctor of Journalism clearly explained that Indiana, unlike the rest of the Northwest Territory was homesteaded from the South as opposed to the Northeast thus explaining why it has always been the most backwards of Great Lakes states.
 
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Yes this letter contained a racial slur but I'm willing to bet it's pretty common for coaches performing poorly to get death threats and other terrible messages. Don't really see this as particularity noteworthy. Just trying to drive more of the racial division method in this country. One dickhead writing a racist letter isn't really meaningful.
 
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I'm just going to chime in here and state that I think the letter is a hoax. The hand-writing is feminine, the "or else" looks tacked on at the end like an afterthought, the letter is really vague and bland, the return address is, apparently, the Houston Country Club, the tweet about what if a child opened it seems to really give it away, though. Why in the world is an insolent little child opening up Dad's mail? Why would that even be a concern? Don't know if the wife created it to generate sympathy in a tough week, but not something that anybody should get up in arms about. It amounts to internet-level trolling, but somehow it blows up and causes Coach Sumlin to become the victim-of-the-week. I figured black coaches in the south got this kind of stuff on a weekly basis...:paranoid:
 
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HabaneroBuck said:
I'm just going to chime in here and state that I think the letter is a hoax. The hand-writing is feminine, the "or else" looks tacked on at the end like an afterthought, the letter is really vague and bland, the return address is, apparently, the Houston Country Club, the tweet about what if a child opened it seems to really give it away, though. Why in the world is an insolent little child opening up Dad's mail? Why would that even be a concern? Don't know if the wife created it to generate sympathy in a tough week, but not something that anybody should get up in arms about. It amounts to internet-level trolling, but somehow it blows up and causes Coach Sumlin to become the victim-of-the-week. I figured black coaches in the south got this kind of stuff on a weekly basis...:paranoid:
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Something does seem odd about the whole thing. Why a return address to a country club? Almost like someone was trying to portray the author to be a typical rich southern racist. Clearly someone from the Country Club didn't write this letter then then put that as a return address. Someone is lying here but I'm not sure who yet.
 
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HabaneroBuck said:
I'm just going to chime in here and state that I think the letter is a hoax. The hand-writing is feminine, the "or else" looks tacked on at the end like an afterthought, the letter is really vague and bland, the return address is, apparently, the Houston Country Club, the tweet about what if a child opened it seems to really give it away, though. Why in the world is an insolent little child opening up Dad's mail? Why would that even be a concern? Don't know if the wife created it to generate sympathy in a tough week, but not something that anybody should get up in arms about. It amounts to internet-level trolling, but somehow it blows up and causes Coach Sumlin to become the victim-of-the-week. I figured black coaches in the south got this kind of stuff on a weekly basis...:paranoid:
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In terms of plausability IMO:
1. An Aggie fan actually wrote it - everyone is familiar with that fanbase, right?
2. A fan from another program wrote it
3. Sumlin or someone in his family is lying

I don't really know that much about Sumlin but he seems like an ok dude, and I can't bring myself to believe that he or his wife ginned up a hoax like this. If that makes me naive, so be it.
 
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Zurp said:
I find it odd - how can someone be a football fan and be a racist? Would someone want to root for the whitest team in the country? And only cheer when a white guy scores? If you're really that racist, then you shouldn't be a fan. Or be happy when the guys you don't like fail. Weird.
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if you think black people are sub-human animals, then rooting for blacks playing a sport, especially a violent one, is hardly different from rooting for a rooster in a cockfight or a pitbull in a dog fight. i find very little cognitive dissonance in a white racist rooting for black athletes. blacks exhibiting athletic prowess only enforces this line of thinking from a white racist -- and even moreso when considering that owners, coaches, and quarterbacks are overwhelmingly white.
 
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