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Just Curious: What's your honest opinion of LSU?

SanClementeBuck;1017912; said:
For Tiger fans: what effect, if any, will be the absence of Pellini for your D?

I'm assuming Mr. P. being new HC at Nebraska, will no longer coach at LSU.

Any thouhts?

i'm still eager to hear our tiger fans' perspective on this question from SCB... has it been discussed on another thread, perhaps?
 
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Matt Flynn is going to be tough to stop if he starts to scramble around the field. He has quick feet, not to mention the backup Ryan. And of course Trendan Holliday? that kid is fast. Osu has to establish a running game with Beanie and Maurice, but of course there's Dorsey to worry about. And Boeckman has to play perfect, no mistakes. Both Brians must get open and find ways to make plays, not to mention Ray Small as well. And of course our D with James, Vernon, and Chekwa. OSU must play perfect and remain hungry until we win!!
 
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bukIpower;1021302; said:
You're lucky his judgement in the Auburn game, Florida, and Alabama game didn't cost you victories. I mean a win is a win, but could you imagine had your reciever dropped the ball and you lost the game to Auburn? Ouch that would've hurt, and Les would've definatly been called out for it. Instead it was seen as a brilliant move much like his style will be viewed until it cost LSU big time.


Please tell me which plays you are talking about when saying he could have cost us victories in those games.

Auburn game. Wrong.

Florida game. Wrong.

Alabama game. Wrong.

I'm not exactly sure where you are going with the whole he could have cost us games. The logic of going for it on 4th down is an entirely different argument and hindsight 20/20, sure it could have but we won just like you said a win is a win. It was seen as brilliant now, but true had it not worked it would have been horrible. But there were other plays made in the game, not just handful. There are many possessions in the game for each team.

But let's go ahead and debunk the whole Auburn game myth right now. I would like for you or anyone that has been questioning that play to please review this. Please note, the time on the clock when the play begins, what down it is and what time the clock would have been at had the WR dropped the ball or had it gone out the back of the end zone and let me know. The factor of an INT is way different and that's not what you have said, and I have been reading people say "what if he had dropped it". So please tell me what would have happened had he dropped it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTwkXoYprJE"]YouTube - LSU Win over Auburn 10-20-07[/ame]



Then the Alabama game, I'm not exactly sure which plays you are talking about there. But I'd be happy to listen.:wink2:


Now all of you college football fans watch that play and tell me that's not the reason you love college football. I don't' care if you hate LSU with a passion. If you are a college football fan, that's the stuff this game is made of. Awesome.
 
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Death Valley;1023956; said:
Please tell me which plays you are talking about when saying he could have cost us victories in those games.

Auburn game. Wrong.

Florida game. Wrong.

Alabama game. Wrong.

I'm not exactly sure where you are going with the whole he could have cost us games. The logic of going for it on 4th down is an entirely different argument and hindsight 20/20, sure it could have but we won just like you said a win is a win. It was seen as brilliant now, but true had it not worked it would have been horrible. But there were other plays made in the game, not just handful. There are many possessions in the game for each team.

But let's go ahead and debunk the whole Auburn game myth right now. I would like for you or anyone that has been questioning that play to please review this. Please note, the time on the clock when the play begins, what down it is and what time the clock would have been at had the WR dropped the ball or had it gone out the back of the end zone and let me know. The factor of an INT is way different and that's not what you have said, and I have been reading people say "what if he had dropped it". So please tell me what would have happened had he dropped it.

YouTube - LSU Win over Auburn 10-20-07



Then the Alabama game, I'm not exactly sure which plays you are talking about there. But I'd be happy to listen.:wink2:


Now all of you college football fans watch that play and tell me that's not the reason you love college football. I don't' care if you hate LSU with a passion. If you are a college football fan, that's the stuff this game is made of. Awesome.

Interception, that balls was perfectly thrown and the only person that could have caught it was Byrd. The defender was to busy trying to catch up after being burnt; he never saw it. Additionally, Byrd was interfered with and that flag should have been thrown. That was not only a ballsy call, it was unexpected and why it worked.
 
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sluTiger;1024075; said:
Interception, that balls was perfectly thrown and the only person that could have caught it was Byrd. The defender was to busy trying to catch up after being burnt; he never saw it. Additionally, Byrd was interfered with and that flag should have been thrown. That was not only a ballsy call, it was unexpected and why it worked.

Fair enough. Then can you please instruct your fellow Tigers to stop bitching about the interference call against Chris Gamble in the 2002 BCS Championship Game? Tired of hearing the southerners calling it a tainted championship. :biggrin:
 
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Death Valley;1023956; said:
Please tell me which plays you are talking about when saying he could have cost us victories in those games.

Auburn game. Wrong.

Florida game. Wrong.

Alabama game. Wrong.

I'm not exactly sure where you are going with the whole he could have cost us games. The logic of going for it on 4th down is an entirely different argument and hindsight 20/20, sure it could have but we won just like you said a win is a win. It was seen as brilliant now, but true had it not worked it would have been horrible. But there were other plays made in the game, not just handful. There are many possessions in the game for each team.

But let's go ahead and debunk the whole Auburn game myth right now. I would like for you or anyone that has been questioning that play to please review this. Please note, the time on the clock when the play begins, what down it is and what time the clock would have been at had the WR dropped the ball or had it gone out the back of the end zone and let me know. The factor of an INT is way different and that's not what you have said, and I have been reading people say "what if he had dropped it". So please tell me what would have happened had he dropped it.

YouTube - LSU Win over Auburn 10-20-07



Then the Alabama game, I'm not exactly sure which plays you are talking about there. But I'd be happy to listen.:wink2:


Now all of you college football fans watch that play and tell me that's not the reason you love college football. I don't' care if you hate LSU with a passion. If you are a college football fan, that's the stuff this game is made of. Awesome.

i'll tell you right now, straight up, that without some EXTREMELY fortuitous calls and very dubious officiating, LSU LOST the Auburn game.
1) first half, LSU is in the red zone, a flag is thrown for not enough men on the LOS. play is reviewed to determine whether receiver got the ball over the pylon, the flag is pocketed and rather than a penalty, the TD was awarded.
2) 3rd and 4, ~1 minute to go, LSU RB runs left, is tackled WELL short of the first down marker. the ref spots the ball with his right foot, then places the ball at his left foot, effectively giving the Tigers a first down. even had the Tigers picked up the 4th and one play, too much time would have expired to take that last second heave to the end zone...

and BTW, your argument about how much time was left on the clock doesn't hold much water. we're not talking about what would have happened if he had dropped it. we're talking about what would have happened if the Tigers didn't have one more second.
 
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lvbuckeye;1024193; said:
i'll tell you right now, straight up, that without some EXTREMELY fortuitous calls and very dubious officiating, LSU LOST the Auburn game.
1) first half, LSU is in the red zone, a flag is thrown for not enough men on the LOS. play is reviewed to determine whether receiver got the ball over the pylon, the flag is pocketed and rather than a penalty, the TD was awarded. There is a really good still photo of this play online somewhere that I saw. Picking up the flag was the right call. The official standing on that sideline even said so.
2) 3rd and 4, ~1 minute to go, LSU RB runs left, is tackled WELL short of the first down marker. the ref spots the ball with his right foot, then places the ball at his left foot, effectively giving the Tigers a first down. even had the Tigers picked up the 4th and one play, too much time would have expired to take that last second heave to the end zone... I agree completely that we got a VERY favorable spot that Tuberville should have challenged. To me, Auburn not challenging it was a terrible coaching move.

and BTW, your argument about how much time was left on the clock doesn't hold much water. we're not talking about what would have happened if he had dropped it. we're talking about what would have happened if the Tigers didn't have one more second. I'm not going to blame coaching one bit for this call. Watch the play again. When we broke the huddle, there was plenty of time to run that play, and if it was unsuccessful, kick the field goal. Flynn took too long to get the snap off. Had he gotten the snap off quicker (which was probably the plan), there would have been 5-7 seconds left fo the kick and no one would be questioning the call.


My answers to you are in red.
 
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CCI;1024197; said:
very beatable team, just like in 02 LSU is overated like criami was. I think they play Big Ten Football with the run

Perhaps, but whether or not that is an accurate analysis won't be known until Jan 7th.

Our primary RB Jacob Hester reminds me a lot of an old school running back from the Big 10 "3 yards & a cloud of dust" era.

If the OL can give Flynn/Perilloux adequate time to find the receivers I think we will have some success with the passsing game. That's a big if however and if your D applies constant pressure to our QBs then it could be a long night for us.
 
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COTiger;1024236; said:
Perhaps, but whether or not that is an accurate analysis won't be known until Jan 7th.

Our primary RB Jacob Hester reminds me a lot of an old school running back from the Big 10 "3 yards & a cloud of dust" era.

If the OL can give Flynn/Perilloux adequate time to find the receivers I think we will have some success with the passsing game. That's a big if however and if your D applies constant pressure to our QBs then it could be a long night for us.

I'm thinking the same thing, just with different jersey colors and names. I think that even though they have given up quite a few points that LSU's defense will be the best we've faced this year (if healthy, and I think they will be) Our O-line must play well or it will be a long night.
 
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lvbuckeye;1024193; said:
and BTW, your argument about how much time was left on the clock doesn't hold much water. we're not talking about what would have happened if he had dropped it. we're talking about what would have happened if the Tigers didn't have one more second.


bukIpower


I mean a win is a win, but could you imagine had your reciever dropped the ball and you lost the game to Auburn?

Actually that's exactly what "we" were talking about. More to the point, it's what I chose to address. If you want to go ahead and debate another point we can do that. But I am debating the incorrect information I read on the last page. I don't understand what the point is in the Auburn game. There was time left on the clock, had the pass not been complete there would have still been time left. Game. Set. Match. There is nothing to debate about that game but thanks for playing.
 
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bukIpower;1021302; said:
When I hear Les Miles talk it's almost like he's trying to give that defining moment speech all the time. With the "damn fine ball team" speech, to the Pregame Tennessee/LSU speech it just seems over the top.

I think he is trying (too hard) to be Bo Schembeckler jr. with his press conferences and interviews.
 
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