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John McCallister: The Difference between Talent Evaluators and "Recruiting Experts"

JohnnyCockfight

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Let's look back at McCallister's evaluations for the Ohio guys coming out of high school a few years back...I think they're very good. He can't predict grade and criminal issues, so those are a push. The calls on Sims, D'Andrea, and Gonzo are telling. Also, calling Burgess the best defensive lineman in the state was bold--too bad Burgess was deadset on playing safety (what Michigan assured him he would play).

http://the-ozone.net/recruiting/03analysis_2.htm

John McCallister runs The McCallister Scouting Report, a scouting service he provides not to recruiting enthusiasts, but to recruiting coordinators across the country. McCallister makes his living by evaluating Ohio talent and selling his evaluations to recruiting coordinators at various universities.

McCallister shuns making his evaluations public, but in our experience he's good, very good. How good is he? Last year he told us (with the understanding that we wouldn't publish it) that Rob Sims was the best offensive lineman in the state, that Mike D'Andrea would have a lot to learn at linebacker, and that Justin Zwick and Doug Datish would most likely redshirt. He told us all that in July. Pretty much he hit it all on the head.

McCallister sent us his evaluations this year as well, with a note that said "Please respect my privacy on this." We've done so, but yesterday we talked to him, and here is what he had to say about some of the Ohio players we've covered in Part I and so far in Part II.

In the speed category, McCallister called Donte Whitner "simply the best football player in Ohio." McCallister ranked Curt Lukens the second-best DB in Ohio, but added that the strong safety candidate could easily grow into an OLB at the college level, much in the mold of Cie Grant, and added that Lukens has what he calls "special toughness."

OSU defensive coordinator Mark Dantonio agreed completely with McCallister on Whitner.

"I've been recruiting Ohio for eight years, and I think Donte Whitner is maybe the best defensive, the total package, that I've seen come out of the state as a high school player," said Dantonio.

"He's very much about business. I've been very favorably impressed with his attitude. He comes in and watches film, does all those kind of things to try and establish himself here as a young player. The three things it takes to be a great defensive back are judgment, tackling and change of direction. He's demonstrated that he can do that in camp and then on game film," said Dantonio.

McCallister ranked Darius Hiley and Tony Gonzales one and two in the state at wide receiver, though he adds that either of those players could play defense as well. That is very consistent with what Tressel said at his press conference, and what both those player said to us when we spoke to them. McCallister ranked Devon Jordan the fifth best receiver in Ohio, saying he has great hands. McCallister does not rank out-of-state prospects, so he did not have comments on Ashton Youboty or Ira Guilford.

McCallister raved about all three of OSU's big speed players from Ohio. He ranked Irizarry and Frost one and two at tight end respectively, and like the OSU coaching staff, rates Irizarry a tremendous pass catching prospect and Frost a prospect that could excel at any number of positions, adding that Frost could very likely get much bigger as he matures.

As much as McCallister like Irizarry and Frost, he really loved Reggie Smith. He called him "One of the toughest, quickest, and most aggressive defensive players in Ohio." Great burst, toughness and quickness were the attributes that McCallister liked in Smith.

In the "ones that got away" category, McCallister rates Shawn Crable the number one prospect in Ohio at outside linebacker, noting that it is very likely that Crable will grow into a defensive end. In a very surprising evaluation, McCallister likes Prescott Burgess as the best defensive line prospect in the state, just ahead of Buckeye signee David Patterson, but based more on potential than current ability. McCallister does not see enough speed in Burgess to be a DB, but sees him as an OLB initially who has the potential to grow into a defensive end.
 
JT and company know what they want, and they have done a great job thus far. Remember that it is just someones opinion. An athlete can grow in leaps and bounds beyond what the general grading is. And visa versa in some cases as well. You can't put a rating on the "heart" of some of these kids, if you could rate them, it would be off the scale.
btw JCF, nice info, Thanks!
Moose
 
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The official Blog of MSR Ohio founder John McCallister.

Friday, October 23, 2009
The Fight in the Dog
Former O-State football coach, John Cooper once told me, " It is not the size of the dog, but amount of fight in the dog." No more evident than as I watched Parma Normandy host Garfield Heights last night. Jake Suirek, 5'10-200, senior running back from Normandy has a lot of fight and determination. However, this has not caught on with the college recruiters.

cont...
 
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msrohio.blogspot.com

Friday, November 13, 2009
Bowsherville University - new program

Something I rarely do any more is provide fuel to the media. Interviews are limited. One radio show I do occassionally, and then sometimes talk with good friend, Bill Conley on his pregame show. One thing certain, if you read anything remotely associated with Lee Shearer and his "Bucknuts Boys, " it is not from me.

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msrohio.blogspot.com

Saturday, December 12, 2009
Football Combines in December

From the way I slant my blogs, most readers must get the sense that I am "old school," or better yet the "old guard," as "money guy" once referred to me. But, I would rather think that I just use common sense. Anyway, here is my take on combines in December.

First, a football combine in Texas does not nothing to help you be a recruitable football player. If you are good, O-State, Michigan, Florida, and everybody is going to know a little about you. The bigs, and really , even the mid majors, are going to see you this spring and summer. Most of the schools highly suggest that they will not offer you, unless you attend camp. With some schools, I buy into that.


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Be a kid!!! Do not leave school early to participate in spring practice. Do not quit a sport to concentrate on strength training. Do not get caught up in the recruiting crap on the websites. Be leary of people trying to "get into your head," about what camps and schools that you should attend. Be a kid!!!!!
A different perspective from Mr. McCallister, and one that I totally agree with.
 
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MSROHIO: Poor Buckeyes

Recently, at the Ohio High School Football Coaches Clinic I was joking around with Coach Tressel. I told him that I would know longer being sharing recruiting opinions with him. As Coach Tressel often does, he gave me the raised eyebrow look. I told him since Rivals and Scout and some of the "self-annointed experts only rated O-State 17th that I could no longer learn anything from the O-State staff. But doesn't that make sense? They are the experts and know exactly what Ohio State needs.

Continued.....
 
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John McCallister

Since 1989 I've worked to provide the best information on Ohio's top high school football prospects to colleges. I'm a former high school english teacher and football coach with a passoin for Ohio High School Football.

:lol: I know, I know. He's a legit talent evaluator. But come on, that's funny.
 
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John is a "tell it like it is" old school guy, but a caring person at heart.

I've had several conversations with him and he understands the business. It really opens your eyes to web sites, ratings, stars, camps, etc.

Often times the top kids in the class are not the ones that many of us might think until a few years later when we are talking about 3 star guys looking impressive. These guys just sit back and smile. Of course the same could be said for 5 star "busts". It's sad the expectations we put on some of these kids becasue some internet guys put a label on them.

And the best part about him is that he really puts the kids first. He shoots straight with everyone. Parents and kids especially.

And for anyone who questions who does and doesn't get offers, I quickly could see why top 100 lists have zero value to staffs like they do us.

These coaches (at least at Ohio State) are so out in front with their info on underclassmen it's crazy.

John realizes this as well and he now does a camp for underclassmen that helps both coaches and kids get a head start in recruiting.

A lot of kids and parents think a lot of him for his help in the recruiting process.
 
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Hodgepodge;1661066; said:

Another tidbit from the link:

Obviously, there are some that can evaluate, but some collect information. Never look at video, never go to camps, and never are on the sidelines. A few years ago there was a guy here in Ohio that would evaluate propects. In fact, I heard that he still has a cult. The sad thing was that he NEVER left his house to attend a game or a camp. Another guy with a lot of clout was a former mailman. Tremendous at taking pictures and collecting information. But he collected his information from colleges in exchange for lists of names. More recently, a guy was laid off from his factory work. Wrote a couple of articles and now he is guru. Of the course, my friend the Frito Bandito, has convinced his cult that understands evaluating prospects.

Fascinating stuff...
 
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sepia5;1661073; said:
:lol: I know, I know. He's a legit talent evaluator. But come on, that's funny.

Buckrock;1661127; said:
"In closing, just be honest with prospects. If it is too good to be true, it probably is. My diectories are done and ready to be picked up".


Spell check John! Must be why you are a former English teacher.

While we're piling on...

I told him that I would know longer being sharing recruiting opinions with him.

I don't no what to say.
 
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