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Joe Flacco (Baltimore Ravens)

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Mr_Burns

Hall of Fame
BUCKYLE;1388738; said:
That's three out of 32.

The intent of my post was initially just to vent some frustration about the Browns, but Numby's point about those other two teams just makes me realize even more why it wouldn't have been conventional to make the move to Troy.

If you are winning, don't change it. If you would have told me in 2005 that we'd be watching 2 playoff teams in 2009 with Vince Young and Matt Leinart as backups to Kerry Collins and Kurt Warner, I would have probably cussed at you a lot and insulted various people's mothers.
 
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billmac91

Head Coach
3074326;1388740; said:
Niners did it, and the Raiders benched JaMarcus Russel for a game or two this season.

It happens. It's not a common occurance, but it does happen.

I guess I'm not really seeing the relevance of this anyways.

Flacco was winning games, but his stats sucked. They protected Joe and made sure he didn't lose any games. They rushed the football and relied on great D.

I'd imagine the same plan would have been behind Troy too. The problem for Troy unfortunately, is Baltimore was winning games, even though Flacco wasn't showing anything or playing well. The wins made the decesion easy on the coaching staff.

Had Troy started, and they win the same games, all of a sudden the Ravens organization get what they want:

1. A year for Flacco to learn on the bench
2. A competitive team with Smith starting

Then you have a Derek Anderson type situation where Baltimore has to decide whether to keep Troy or trade him to a team who wants to start him.

A win-win for Troy, plus Troy gets a fat contract from Baltimore or his new team.

If not for that damn sickness......
 
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BUCKYLE

Washed
I'm not saying they should've went to Troy. I think billmac made my point for me. I think if you plug Troy in Fucco's place, the Ravens win every game they did with Joseph at QB. So to sit here and act like Joe distanced himself from Troy by putting up "meh" stats on a team built to take pressure of their QB and put the game in the RB's hands and leave the rest to the D is bullshit.

I think a lot of the shit stems from BP'ers saying stuff like "Flacco sucks". I figured a Buckeye website is one place you wouldn't get your dick kicked off for using a bit of hyperbole when expressing frustration at the fact the best Buckeye QB ever didn't get "his shot" in the NFL. I guess I was wrong.
 
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3074326

Tulsa is the worst city
Haha, yeah, this all started because people are saying that Flacco is terrible.

I'm all for hyperbole, unless I think it's crazy talk.

He did put up solid at worst stats the second half of the season, as a game manager, which I find impressive.
 
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billmac91

Head Coach
3074326;1388749; said:
Haha, yeah, this all started because people are saying that Flacco is terrible.

I'm all for hyperbole, unless I think it's crazy talk.

He did put up solid at worst stats the second half of the season, as a game manager, which I find impressive.

I definately agree with that.

Again, I'm not saying Flacco sucks, or he should have been benched for Troy. If I'm Harbaugh or the owner of the Ravens, I'm not messing with W's.

I just think Troy could have managed the games just as well, and won the exact same games Flacco did to start the season. And that momentum would have carrie dthrough the season, and built a name for Troy.

Instead Troy gets sick, and loses the opportunity to play with one of the best defenses in the league behind him, and a 3 headed attack at RB.

Just a terrible break for Troy at the worst time....
 
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3074326

Tulsa is the worst city
Leinart has looked like what you'd expect him to look based on his experience. He looked like a rookie his first year, then wasn't given a fair shot since.

Vince Young is indeed an interesting scenario, but considering his physical tools and potential, and the fact that he won ROTY, he couldn't be excluded.
 
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3074326

Tulsa is the worst city
Haha

Keep in mind that I'm the one arguing that the Ravens are playing the QB that they think gives them the best shot to win right now. I agree with Warner starting over Leinart, and Collins over Young.
 
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