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James “not elite” Franklin (HC Penn St. Nittany Lions)

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Jaxbuck said:
to me it's more how he says things than what he says

Just comes across as being very thinned skinned and emotionally volatile. My wife doesn't know him from adam but saw him on t.v and said "their coach is a dick".

then you see him getting all pissy with a fan and playing the tough guy bullshit of acting like he has to be held back.

I don't know, just something about the guy. Kind of like Harbaugh but with an IQ over 80.
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It's a northeast thing. New York, New Jersey, Philly (actually more like Bucks county) kinda "ethic". Midwesterners always read this as being "dickish" and stuck up. To northeasterners it's considered the real deal, what it means to "be a man". To midwesterners it just looks like a permanent case of sandy VJ.

The easiest way to understand it is if you imagine any number of characters from the Sopranos... Tony Soprano as a head coach.
 
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shetuck said:
It's a northeast thing. New York, New Jersey, Philly (actually more like Bucks county) kinda "ethic". Midwesterners always read this as being "dickish" and stuck up. To northeasterners it's considered the real deal, what it means to "be a man". To midwesterners it just looks like a permanent case of sandy VJ.

The easiest way to understand it is if you imagine any number of characters from the Sopranos... Tony Soprano as a head coach.
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Maybe that is it now that you mention it.

I've lived in and around the northeast a lot. To me they act tough but when it comes down to it they get too emotional and always end up crying like bitches.

More like a crazy tough than a real tough
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Maybe that is it now that you mention it.

I've lived in and around the northeast a lot. To me they act tough but when it comes down to it they get too emotional and always end up crying like bitches.

More like a crazy tough than a real tough
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Yep...

Just a difference between what "tough" looks like to midwesterners vs what "tough" looks like to northeasterners. Like the difference between an Italian-catholic kinda archetype vs a German-protestant kinda archetype.

In my experience both sides seems completely crazy and unplugged to the other. To a person from the Northeast a guy like Jim Tressel looks like a gullible hick, and to a person from the Midwest a guy like Rex Ryan - just an example of an archetype since I know he's not a NE born-and-bred guy - looks like a total douchebag.

EDIT: Before everybody gets all worked up, I'm not trying intentionally to goad Italians or Catholics or Germans or Protestants here on this list. I'm just contrasting different styles. Almost like a healthy sort of, err, rivalry.
 
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shetuck said:
Yep...

Just a difference between what "tough" looks like to midwesterners vs what "tough" looks like to northeasterners. Like the difference between an Italian-catholic kinda archetype vs a German-protestant kinda archetype.

In my experience both sides seems completely crazy and unplugged to the other. To a person from the Northeast a guy like Jim Tressel looks like a gullible hick, and to a person from the Midwest a guy like Rex Ryan - just an example of an archetype since I know he's not a NE born-and-bred guy - looks like a total douchebag.

EDIT: Before everybody gets all worked up, I'm not trying intentionally to goad Italians or Catholics or Germans or Protestants here on this list. I'm just contrasting different styles. Almost like a healthy sort of, err, rivalry.
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Maybe it’s my Midwestern sensibilities, but
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Is tough (how the character carries himself in a quiet, ‘clearly can kick anyone’s ass but doesn’t need to talk about it’ way, not so much the being a cold blooded murderer part, that’s not a prerequisite for tough).

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Is not tough.
 
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Buckeye513 said:
I don't think being a fake ass bitch has anything to do with geography.
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Of course not, but the "rules" (I think the technical word is "moral code") of survival and success are a bit different depending on geography. All I'm saying is that what seems "fake" to one group doesn't translate over to another group in the same way.

In any case, I'm not interested in defending these fucks. As a former boss used to say "fuck the fuckin' fuckers!".
 
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Buckeye513 said:
I don't think being a fake ass bitch has anything to do with geography.
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I dont know... i can see how the Jersey shore types fit this.
I dont think you'd find that manufactured drama self importance anywhere in Midwest. I'm biased towards German/Midwest stoicism though.
Tressel was definitely 'one of us' in that sense. I think his examples are pretty solid and on point.
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Though ive always found it amusing PA thinks they're east coast rather than the farm country they are.
 
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kujirakira said:
I dont know... i can see how the Jersey shore types fit this.
I dont think you'd find that manufactured drama self importance anywhere in Midwest. I'm biased towards German/Midwest stoicism though.
Tressel was definitely 'one of us' in that sense. I think his examples are pretty solid and on point.
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Though ive always found it amusing PA thinks they're east coast rather than the farm country they are.
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Living here the past 7+ years, the most populated part (south east) is 100% more east coast than midwest.

They are a little more toned down than NY and NJ so it really isn't that bad but they are nothing like midwesterners until you start to get west of Philly.

Problem is that you then quickly get out into the sticks and that has the same underlying sickness as all extremely rural, hillbilly places do. Thus the old saw that it's Pittsburgh on one end, Philly on the other and Alabama in the middle.
 
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THE GREAT PUMPKIN LOSES IT. Without doubt the highlight of my post-victory formation night was James Franklin absolutely melting down in his postgame press conference. I watched all 11 minutes with my mouth pleasantly gaping in bewilderment. It was like performance art.



The highlight for me was when the Pumpkin King heatedly brought up players skipping class as something that could have made up a one-point differential in the football game he clearly could have won with better game management and coaching.

Imagine losing the biggest game of the season at home against the top team in the conference in spectacularly improbable fashion for the second-straight time and then choosing to complain about teens cutting class in the opening statement of your postgame press conference.

What a guy.

It's not like dealing with college students as a college football coach is a situation unique to him. Every coach on an elite team has to handle immature kids while trying to win football games, and be accountable for the players they recruit. They just all clearly do that better than James Franklin does.

Franklin was right about one thing though – Penn State isn't elite. And based on what I've watched the past two years, it might be an elite coach away from reaching that point.

Keep your head up though, coach. Maybe you'll have a 13-point fourth-quarter lead to blow next year.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...ive-quarterback-run-binjimen-victor-touchdown
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
Wow

A coach in happy valley imparting a dysfunctional culture

Can you imagine?
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Well if it wasn’t nice enough to beat the Cult on their own cultground, it’s nice to then have their head coach tell their fans that Ohio State is elite and they are not. Really satisfying to have their own head coach tell them they aren’t on the same level as Ohio State.

Enjoy that kick in the cunt you cultsters.
 
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