Buckeye86;1979184; said:
And the wording of the violation is pretty gay, unless there's actual boobs in the gift bag, what college football player would "benefit" from a gift bag at a Breast Cancer event?
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And the wording of the violation is pretty gay, unless there's actual boobs in the gift bag, what college football player would "benefit" from a gift bag at a Breast Cancer event?
I have questions about the way they did the press release yesterday. I think they realize they got burned trying to 'spin' things in the press conferences of December and March, so they're trying to avoid that, but I think including more facts would have been preferable.
As I understand NCAA rules, the value of the 'benefit' has to be over $100 to warrant any game suspensions. So why didn't they say "between $100 and $300"? Since $300 was the only amount mentioned, that's the value that's getting mentioned, when it could be barely over $100. That makes it look worse (value-wise) than it probably is.
If the value was only the items in the gift bags, just identify them. Why have people speculate about this stuff?
And why not just identify the charity function? Apparently they don't want to embarrass the charity, but there's almost no way this function isn't identified very soon. Just state it in the initial press release and be done with it.
Just like with A.J. Green, a charity function manages to be part of the reason that players miss games. In Green's case, he had already sold his jersey, but the team asked everybody for their game jerseys so they could use them in a charity auction and he got caught when he couldn't return his.
Sadly, if the players had been out robbing or assaulting people, or driving while impaired that night, the NCAA wouldn't have any rules that would suspend them.
As I understand NCAA rules, the value of the 'benefit' has to be over $100 to warrant any game suspensions. So why didn't they say "between $100 and $300"? Since $300 was the only amount mentioned, that's the value that's getting mentioned, when it could be barely over $100. That makes it look worse (value-wise) than it probably is.
If the value was only the items in the gift bags, just identify them. Why have people speculate about this stuff?
And why not just identify the charity function? Apparently they don't want to embarrass the charity, but there's almost no way this function isn't identified very soon. Just state it in the initial press release and be done with it.
Just like with A.J. Green, a charity function manages to be part of the reason that players miss games. In Green's case, he had already sold his jersey, but the team asked everybody for their game jerseys so they could use them in a charity auction and he got caught when he couldn't return his.
Sadly, if the players had been out robbing or assaulting people, or driving while impaired that night, the NCAA wouldn't have any rules that would suspend them.
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ArmyVet83
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Well hell. At least the media types didn't break the story and rape it to pieces....YET!!
Read Adam's spiel on it on ESPiN. Makes it sound like its breaking news. Fucking vultures.
Well one way to look at it is the media LOVES to talk about Ohio State football in ANY light.
Read Adam's spiel on it on ESPiN. Makes it sound like its breaking news. Fucking vultures.
Well one way to look at it is the media LOVES to talk about Ohio State football in ANY light.
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Remember the first thing you need to know about any bullshit NCAA rule... The only reason something like this is a violation in the first place is because once upon a time, somebody in Alabama paid a player a salary of $180,000 entirely in t-shirts and mousepads.
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Poe McKnoe
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daddyphatsacs;1979002; said:
That's probably an NCAA violation. See:"Impermissible Advice"
2.719er game suspension.
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Ryan36_1 said:
I can just picture the rehersals going on right now with all the talking hair-dos at SECSPIN ...
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UpNorthBuckeye
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I personally am not in great anguish about this, and thing we all ought to chill.
Let our "enemies" get amped up about this, and then make fools of themselves trying to paint a charity golf event into a tattoo parlor with swirling clouds of reefer.
I am curious to know what kind of collection of golf balls (probably 4), chap stick, refrigerator magnets and subway coupons they got in the dumb bag.
would be hilarious if it was Spielman's event, too.
anybody have any details? I checked the dispatch and ozone and can't find any specifics...
Let our "enemies" get amped up about this, and then make fools of themselves trying to paint a charity golf event into a tattoo parlor with swirling clouds of reefer.
I am curious to know what kind of collection of golf balls (probably 4), chap stick, refrigerator magnets and subway coupons they got in the dumb bag.
would be hilarious if it was Spielman's event, too.
anybody have any details? I checked the dispatch and ozone and can't find any specifics...
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I want to take another tack on this revelation.
Back in the day, I shared a class with Tom Skladany and Ray Griffin. Tom and I were in a group, working on a group assignment. At one point, I loaned Tom a pencil and a few sheets of paper and he told me that he could not accept them. When I looked at him like he was nuts, he told me about the NCAA rules and said he felt it was very important that he would be able to say that he had never received an improper benefit. The best way to ensure that, according to him, was to pay his own way on everything, even the small stuff.
I know that this was a breast benefit and such a worthy cause, but these guys should have known not to accept any benefit. Period.
Mickey Mouse, ticky-tack nonsensical rules? I sure think so. I also realize that Smith looks pedantic. But, take another perspective, folks. What would folks be saying if some genius at ESPiN had found out, sat on this story until the week before The Game, and then revealed the "shocking news" of corruption at Ohio State?
This stuff has to end now. These kids need to realize that they are living under a microscope. I hate this stuff, but I don't blame Smith or Ohio State sports administrators. Until the NCAA rules are changed, the kids are the ones to blame.
Back in the day, I shared a class with Tom Skladany and Ray Griffin. Tom and I were in a group, working on a group assignment. At one point, I loaned Tom a pencil and a few sheets of paper and he told me that he could not accept them. When I looked at him like he was nuts, he told me about the NCAA rules and said he felt it was very important that he would be able to say that he had never received an improper benefit. The best way to ensure that, according to him, was to pay his own way on everything, even the small stuff.
I know that this was a breast benefit and such a worthy cause, but these guys should have known not to accept any benefit. Period.
Mickey Mouse, ticky-tack nonsensical rules? I sure think so. I also realize that Smith looks pedantic. But, take another perspective, folks. What would folks be saying if some genius at ESPiN had found out, sat on this story until the week before The Game, and then revealed the "shocking news" of corruption at Ohio State?
This stuff has to end now. These kids need to realize that they are living under a microscope. I hate this stuff, but I don't blame Smith or Ohio State sports administrators. Until the NCAA rules are changed, the kids are the ones to blame.
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I would also add, "What did Spielman know and when did he know it?"
Here's the article that Rusty Miller, who is the guy with the droopy mustache that covers the Buckeyes full-time for the Associated Press, wrote yesterday:
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Words it does NOT contain: "charity", "breast cancer", or "gift bags".
Words and phrases it contains:
It looks to me like the writer wanted to make it sound as bad as possible, rather than just presenting the facts of the story.
All the more reason why tOSU's press release should have contained more specific information.
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Words it does NOT contain: "charity", "breast cancer", or "gift bags".
Words and phrases it contains:
Perhaps that article was written before word of it being gift bags from a breast cancer awareness event was getting around. But the word "charity" was in the initial press release from tOSU, and that was conveniently left out.
It looks to me like the writer wanted to make it sound as bad as possible, rather than just presenting the facts of the story.
All the more reason why tOSU's press release should have contained more specific information.
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BB73;1979192; said:
In what kind of ass-backward world would assault and DUI charges be considered more damaging to a group of people than violating a private organization's extremely outdated bylaws?! Clearly Ohio State's players are more morally corrupt than star players from LSU and Notre Dame.
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