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It Looks Like I was Right (Hurricane Katrina Merged)

LoKyBuckeye said:
Some have been threated. A photographer was chased down the street by family memebers when he tried to get a picture of a dead woman in a wheelchair at the Super Dome. I have a fried who is a free lance videographer who was called NO and I bet he'll have some scary stories when he gets back.
Good for them. What turns my stomach is that over the first three days, all the efforts were focused on the Superdome. It seemed that nobody knew that there were another 20,000 people at the Convention Center. But as soon as the CC story breaks, CNN has camera crews, reporters, god damn motherfucking bloggers with wireless, satellite laptop computers on the scene, reporting about how much it sucks. You know these reporters are going to get personal evacs from the private helipad once they're done, or else they're sitting on a huge stash of food in their backpacks.

If I were on the ground I'd be hunting down these reporters and clubbing them like baby seals.
 
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That is was just really is annoying, you have these reporters there " ohh look at this damage, it's horrible, I can't imagine this", then the show is over and they go back to their nice hotel room or news van to rest and get cleaned up until the next report needs to be filed. fuckers
 
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buckeyefool said:
That is was just really is annoying, you have these reporters there " ohh look at this damage, it's horrible, I can't imagine this", then the show is over and they go back to their nice hotel room or news van to rest and get cleaned up until the next report needs to be filed. fuckers

Actually, I've witnessed some reporters break down in the middle of their reports. Honestly, what do you want the reporters to do? Hell, they are doing more than you and I are wouldn't you say? I'm not stating that what you said is incorrect, but I do think that some are actually down there to cover the tragedy for what it is....not the ratings. I also think they do a lot of good by being down there and showing the destruction......it motivates the public to give all they can.......and help out.
 
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In reading through the 10 pages of this that have occurred since I last was in this thread, I realized Oh8ch struck on a major point. If you look at the demographics of Orleans and Jefferson Parishes (the two closest to NOLA), you'll see that 50% - yes, half - of the population of each of these parishes live at or below the federal poverty level. I do (did) a lot of business in NOLA, and it is an EXTREMELY poor city...and one that was in financial trouble, to boot (even before Katrina).

On a related note, I did hear on CNN this morning that the soldiers arriving today have orders to shoot to kill looters. I saw earlier in the thread where several posters said this would never happen, and I kind of agreed...but I'm glad those orders have been given.

edit: just saw this here:

On Thursday she warned lawbreakers that extra troops had arrived in the city -- with more on the way.
"These are some of the 40,000 extra troops that I have demanded," Blanco said. "They have M-16s, and they're locked and loaded ... I have one message for these hoodlums: These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so if necessary, and I expect they will."
 
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daddyphatsacs said:
Actually, I've witnessed some reporters break down in the middle of their reports. Honestly, what do you want the reporters to do? Hell, they are doing more than you and I are wouldn't you say? I'm not stating that what you said is incorrect, but I do think that some are actually down there to cover the tragedy for what it is....not the ratings. I also think they do a lot of good by being down there and showing the destruction......it motivates the public to give all they can.......and help out.

Honestly some I have seem do seem to actually be helping. I know one of the reporters brought water that they gave out. I have seen other ones where they show the reporter helping move stuff or making sure people can get out word to loved ones that they are okay. But there are some that just come across very fake in some of the reports.
 
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I sawnother report where the reporter took a few older people... one of which was in a wheel chair, to a place where they were able to get a ride out of their flooded area. Loaded up their stuff in the news van and off they went.
 
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Another way to help by tOSU:

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FKAGobucks877 said:
In reading through the 10 pages of this that have occurred since I last was in this thread, I realized Oh8ch struck on a major point. If you look at the demographics of Orleans and Jefferson Parishes (the two closest to NOLA), you'll see that 50% - yes, half - of the population of each of these parishes live at or below the federal poverty level. I do (did) a lot of business in NOLA, and it is an EXTREMELY poor city...and one that was in financial trouble, to boot (even before Katrina).

On a related note, I did hear on CNN this morning that the soldiers arriving today have orders to shoot to kill looters. I saw earlier in the thread where several posters said this would never happen, and I kind of agreed...but I'm glad those orders have been given.

edit: just saw this here:

I understood there was fine point of State vs Feeral rioghts involved here .. if they are Federal Troops requested from the Armed Forces by Blanco then they might not have such full latitude. If they are directly called in by Blanco from National Guard units, then yes they would be able to arrest and shoot to kill if need be.

Also -- on the earlier Nagin subject matter - his phone interview on WLW in New Orleans is now reported in fuller detail ...

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- As his city skidded deeper into chaos, New Orleans' embattled mayor accused federal officials of dragging their feet while people are dying in deplorable conditions.
Mayor Ray Nagin's voice cracked with anger and anguish Thursday night in an interview with New Orleans radio station WWL.
"We're getting reports and calls that [are] breaking my heart from people saying, 'I've been in my attic. I can't take it anymore. The water is up to my neck. I don't think I can hold out.' And that's happening as we speak."
Nagin said the time has long past for federal authorities to act on their promises.
"You mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources that we need? Come on man," he said.
"I need reinforcements," he pleaded. "I need troops, man. I need 500 buses, man. This is a national disaster.
"I've talked directly with the president," he said. "I've talked to the head of the homeland security. I've talked to everybody under the sun."
After scheduled visits to devastated areas in Alabama and Mississippi, President Bush was expected to fly over the hurricane-ravaged city on Friday.
As he left the White House, Bush said, "The results are not acceptable. I'm headed down there right now."
He said he was "looking forward" to thanking people involved in disaster-relief efforts and assuring victims that short-term and long-term help is on the way.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday that he thinks the Federal Emergency Management Agency and other federal agencies have done a "magnificent job" under difficult circumstances, citing their "courage" and "ingenuity."
Insisting that aid is coming as fast as possible, Chertoff said, "You can't fly helicopters in a hurricane. You can't drive trucks in a hurricane."
FEMA Director Michael Brown told CNN on Friday, "My heart breaks. What we're doing, we're ramping up."
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she hoped the amount of needed aid would begin arriving Friday.
"I'm not going to stand here and play the blame game," Blanco said. "We have a problem. Let's get to the problem."
The tempers of those waiting for food, water and relief from relentless heat continued to boil Friday as they waited for help to arrive, some in shocking conditions that were only getting worse. At least one large explosion rocked the city early Friday.
In the radio interview, Nagin's frustration was palpable.
"I've been out there man. I flew in these helicopters, been in the crowds talking to people crying, don't know where their relatives are. I've done it all man, and I'll tell you man, I keep hearing that it's coming. This is coming, that is coming. And my answer to that today is BS, where is the beef? Because there is no beef in this city. "
Nagin said, "Get every Greyhound bus in the country and get them moving."
Nagin called for a moratorium on press conferences "until the resources are in this city."
"They're feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying," he said.
"I don't know whether it's the governor's problem, or it's the president's problem, but somebody needs to get ... on a plane and sit down, the two of them, and figure this out right now," Nagin said.
"They thinking small, man, and this is a major, major deal," he said.
"Get off your asses and let's do something."
The mayor said except for a few "knuckleheads," the looting is the result of desperate people just trying to find food and water to survive.
Nagin blamed the outbreak of crime and violence on drug addicts who are cut off from their drug supplies and wandering the city "looking to take the edge off their jones."
Nagin is in his first term as mayor. He was sworn in May 2002. A Democrat, he was a popular reform candidate who promised to clean up the city's political corruption. He's a former cable company executive.
 
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I have highlighted some of the more enlightened comments.

World stunned as US struggles with Katrina <O:p></O:p>


<!-- END HEADLINE --><!-- BEGIN STORY BODY -->By Andrew Gray1 hour, 55 minutes ago <O:p></O:p>
The world has watched amazed as the planet's only superpower struggles with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with some saying the chaos has exposed flaws and deep divisions in American society.<O:p></O:p>
World leaders and ordinary citizens have expressed sympathy with the people of the southern United States whose lives were devastated by the hurricane and the flooding that followed.<O:p></O:p>
But many have also been shocked by the images of disorder beamed around the world -- looters roaming the debris-strewn streets and thousands of people gathered in New Orleans waiting for the authorities to provide food, water and other aid.<O:p></O:p>
"Anarchy in the USA" declared Britain's best-selling newspaper The Sun.<O:p></O:p>
"Apocalypse Now" headlined Germany's Handelsblatt daily.<O:p></O:p>
The pictures of the catastrophe -- which has killed hundreds and possibly thousands -- have evoked memories of crises in the world's poorest nations such as last year's tsunami in Asia, which left more than 230,000 people dead or missing.<O:p></O:p>
But some view the response to those disasters more favorably than the lawless aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.<O:p></O:p>
"I am absolutely disgusted. After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, as he watched a cricket match in Colombo, Sri Lanka.<O:p></O:p>
"Not a single tourist caught in the tsunami was mugged. Now with all this happening in the U.S. we can easily see where the civilized part of the world's population is."<O:p></O:p>
SINKING INTO ANARCHY<O:p></O:p>
Many newspapers highlighted criticism of local and state authorities and of President Bush. Some compared the sputtering relief effort with the massive amounts of money and resources poured into the war in Iraq.<O:p></O:p>
"A modern metropolis sinking in water and into anarchy -- it is a really cruel spectacle for a champion of security like Bush," France's left-leaning Liberation newspaper said.<O:p></O:p>
"(Al Qaeda leader Osama) bin Laden, nice and dry in his hideaway, must be killing himself laughing."<O:p></O:p>
A female employee at a multinational firm in South Korea said it may have been no accident the U.S. was hit.<O:p></O:p>
"Maybe it was punishment for what it did to Iraq, which has a man-made disaster, not a natural disaster," said the woman, who did not want to be named as she has an American manager.<O:p></O:p>
"A lot of the people I work with think this way. We spoke about it just the other day," she said.<O:p></O:p>
Commentators noted the victims of the hurricane were overwhelmingly African Americans, too poor to flee the region as the hurricane loomed unlike some of their white neighbors.<O:p></O:p>
New Orleans ranks fifth in the United States in terms of African American population and 67 percent of the city's residents are black. <O:p></O:p>
"In one of the poorest states in the country, where black people earn half as much as white people, this has taken on a racial dimension," said a report in Britain's Guardian daily. <O:p></O:p>
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people. <O:p></O:p>
"You see in this example that even in the 21st century you need the state, a good functioning state, and I hope that for all these people, these poor people, that the Americans will do their best," he told reporters at a European Union meeting in Newport, Wales. <O:p></O:p>
David Fordham, 33, a hospital anesthetist speaking at a London underground rail station, said he had spent time in America and was not surprised the country had struggled to cope. <O:p></O:p>
"Maybe they just thought they could sit it out and everything would be okay," he said. <O:p></O:p>
"It's unbelievable though -- the TV images -- and your heart goes out to them." <O:p></O:p>
(With reporting by Reuters bureaux around the world) <O:p></O:p>

As for the comment about civility, I might agree with him regarding social issues, but now is NOT the time for your fucking social commentary. And it's awfully easy to sit back and make comments while you watch a fucking cricket match.

The comment about Bin Laden? <FUCKING Arabs.>Same thing as above. i'm not asking you to agree with the war. But show a little compassion, you fucking dicks. <FUCKING Frogs.>And who the hell has bailed your sorry asses out in the past? Just shut the fuck up.

The comment on this being God's punishment of the US for the war in Iraq: This is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. I'm sure all the poverty-stricken folks of Louisiana were to blame for the war in Iraq, and thus God would smote them for their sins. Get a fucking clue, bitch.

I am absolutely appalled at the lack of compassion for the US right now. I don't expect them to agree with our foreign affairs policies, but how about a touch of humanity? Who were some of the first people there to help out with the tsunami mess? Who is always there to help another nation following a natural disaster? How about the US?

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I just got off the phone with my brother. He just heard on the news that those fucking barbarians (staying in the dome) down there raped a six year old girl last night. Apparently, they are priding themselves on raping white girls. They are also shooting at the police and National Guardsmen who are trying to get in to help everyone.
 
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What the world's press has to say:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207542.stm

Colombia's El Pais
Today, in important areas of the Gulf of Mexico and, in particular, New Orleans there is a terrifying panorama of desolation and millions of human beings who live in the most powerful country in the world are suffering the tragedy of a catastrophe that is difficult to imagine.

Taipei's Taiwan News
New Orleans may go down in history as the first major city in an advanced country to be lost to the process of global warming... We sincerely hope that the Bush administration will take the call from Hurricane Katrina and reconsider its energy and environmental policies and replace ostrich-like escapism with leadership in the global effort to deal with the crisis of global climatic change.

Hong Kong's Ta Kung Pao
This Katrina hurricane is a 'warning' by God over President Bush's reactionary behaviour on the Kyoto Protocol. The US government should wake up from this big disaster, truly take up its responsibilities as a great nation, and become the forerunner in protecting the global climate.

Australia's The Daily Telegraph
Katrina has wrecked not only the physical corporality of civilization. Now there are unmistakable signs in the hurricane's aftermath of the collapse of ordered society. Communication has become virtually impossible. There is no power, no fuel, no food. And looters are at work. This in the United States, the most powerful nation that has ever been.

Israel's Ma'ariv
The American meteorological service provided real-time precise information but the leadership failed in preparing for the anger of the weather...What is scary after Katrina is to see the biggest superpower in the world helpless, even if temporarily.

China's Renmin Wang
This hurricane disaster, while bringing huge harm to human resources and property for the residents of New Orleans, has also provided a rare opportunity for the White House to regain extensive popular support... the losses are far greater than in the 9/11 terrorist attack, therefore 'Katrina' has brought a most arduous test for Bush.

Sweden's Dagens Nyheter
The disaster is obviously a challenge for Bush... like every predecessor, he is thinking of his lasting reputation. And, if you will excuse the expression, he does not want to see that reputation blown apart.

Denmark's Kristeligt Dagblad
Every natural disaster comes in two waves. First the wind and rain arrives, then the political storm.

France's Le Monde
The disaster could become a trump card for the White House if it allows the Iraq war and its opponents to fade into the background.

Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung
But if he [Bush] fails to get a grip on the chaos within a few days, his words could become his undoing.

Germany's Die Tageszeitung
The fast and safe evacuation was white, leaving behind poor black people, as if time had stood still between the racial unrest of the sixties and today.

Prague's Hospodarske Noviny
Not even the monstrous Katrina will drag the USA into recession.

Romania's Gardianul
Bush's desperate efforts to redress the situation did not stop the virulent criticism aimed at his 'indifference'... on the first day of the hurricane [he] was still on holiday.

Spain's ABC
What is certain is that the tragedy has that has razed to the ground the states of Louisiana and Mississippi has shown up the weak flanks of a country which, taken up in the last few years with its imperial adventures, has ignored matters that are much more important for the well-being of its citizens.

Israel's Yediot Aharonot
Scores of 'mini' blunders in the giant American blunder that included loss of control, lack of a chain of command, heavy fog with all that has to do with the distribution of powers and the chatter-stricken elected public figures.

Palestinian Al-Hayat al-Jadidah
We sympathize with the American people in their predicament after Hurricane Katrina. But the real hurricane is the Iraqi resistance that does not target innocent [Americans].

Brazil's O Globo
One of the pillars of the Bush era has been his ability to connect with middle America. Will Bush be thrown a lifeline, thanks to the hurricane? Or, disconnected from his popular support base, will he limp on as a governor that does not govern - the lame duck of American political jargon - until the end of his term?

Australia's The Sydney Morning Herald
Though its death toll is much lower [than the Asian tsunami], in one respect Katrina may be more shocking: the possibility that human activity contributed to the hurricane's strength... Even small changes in temperature can produce disproportionately large weather events.

South Africa's Mercury
There must be truth to the adage that when the United States of America sneezes, the whole world will catch its cold.

El Salvador El Diario de Hoy
It is difficult to make light of one fact: that climate changes are at play, which are causing increasingly violent events... Katrina was just a warning.
 
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Spain's ABC
What is certain is that the tragedy has that has razed to the ground the states of Louisiana and Mississippi has shown up the weak flanks of a country which, taken up in the last few years with its imperial adventures, has ignored matters that are much more important for the well-being of its citizens.

Is it just me, or does Spain still appear bitter that we ended their imperialism a little over 100 years ago when we took Puerto Rico, Cuba, and the Philippians from them?
 
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