It Looks Like I was Right (Hurricane Katrina Merged)

[buckeyefool]

As much as I enjoy 2 people (one of which isn't me) going at it, do we really think this is the thread to be bickering?

I probally did push his buttons a little to much, I just couldn't resist.

As far as nola, I was thinking about that yesterday hope the guy is okay. It really is amazing the total destruction that is going on down there. Reading different sites you just relize more and more how just like 9/11 this is a event that is going to touch every single american in some way. It's also good to see everyone no matter what the views or history of their groups starting to come together in support of out own. I think that is whar makes the country as a whole great. We may scream, yell, and bitch at each other but as soon as someone/something from the outside does us wrong we all join together

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

They wouldn't let the survivors out because there was no place to go.

 

[Dryden]

Just read this from a BBC reporter dispatched to NOLA to cover this story for the UK:

The most striking thing is the sheer level of resources and power of the American emergency machine when it gets going. People knew this storm was coming - they were able to evacuate and prepare to some degree.

If you look around the edges of New Orleans - we've been down there taking a look - you can see the colossal resources being brought in pretty quickly. Columns of hundreds and hundreds of speedboats drawn by pickups arrived practically instantaneously. The American military has got helicopters lifting off and touching down by the moment.

America can deal with these things effectively but equally the American public has much higher expectations of its government.

A little perspective. It's bad. It will get a whole lot worse before it gets better, but it will get better. The conditions that people are struggling with right now are conditions that people in some countries have dealt with for their entire lives. The resources of America when facing a challenge are unprecedented on this planet, and have been for over 200 years.

As for the mayor, the President, Homeland Security, FEMA, whomever ... I'm still frustrated by this. I understand the magnitude of this disaster, and that this specific event (hurricane + levee break) wasn't planned for, but I have to question how at least a flood in NOLA wasn't rehearsed, especially following 9/11. What would the toll have been had a terrorist driven a U-Haul of TNT into a levee without warning ... without evacuation?

 

[BB73]

Didn't get much sleep. When they bumped it up to 145 mph @2:00AM I knew I had to leave. I was out at 6:00AM.

We are in Starkville, MS. Still in the path but 100+ miles inland. I pulled a neighbor's truck out of a ditch and checked on some friends that were headed to Houston before I left.

This is not going to be good. Not sure what to expect when we get home if we get home.

There is another tropical depression forming in the Atlantic.

FYI, this was nola's last post in this thread. He was in Starkville the evening before Katrina hit land.

Hope your family is well, nola.

 

[lvbuckeye]

not cool, thump... we're talking about a person here...

on Fox News, they are showing people running around with hunting rifles... there have been many incidents of gunfire, at least 12 car-jackings last night, and several rapes...

it seems that it is a total free-for-all after dark...

the people seem to have completely lost it... God help them all...

 

[Dryden]

I'm completely ignorant to whats going on down there, but I'm wondering why they couldn't just leave the superdome at any time after the storm?

The security that was present wouldn't let them. Those who were in charge at the Superdome and the Convention Center expected emergency response on Monday. It never showed up. I-10 to the east has collapsed. The causeway has collapsed. I-55 is unpassable. I-10 to the west appears to be all that's left, but help never showed up. These people don't realize how bad it is everywhere. Like everyone else in NOLA, they probably think it's just them and help will get there ASAP.

 

[Dryden]

it seems that it is a total free-for-all after dark...

the people seem to have completely lost it... God help them all...

What else is there?

I have the gun. You have the food and water. It's paper, rock, scissors with only one possible result.

That's why people loot the guns first -- once you have the gun taking everything else you need becomes easy. Factor in being stranded for 4 days, dehydrated, starving and exhausted, people get pretty desperate once all their options have been taken away from them.

 

[rocketman]

To be honest, the looting/murders etc. do not surprise me at all. Any society - black, white, rich, or poor - would snap under these conditions, and would be reduced to what you see now.

What I DO find uppalling beyond all belief is the mass media outlets turning this dire situation into some disgusting sporting event that we can all watch in our own comfort. I remember something on CNN where the reporter and the camera crew had the NERVE to ask a stranded family how long they had been there, or how long they had been walking. The look in the poor man's tortured eyes when some idiot reporter stuck a camera and a mic in his face asking him just how bad of a situation was he really in was unforgettable. The whole scene made me irate. PUT DOWN THE FUCKING CAMERA AND HELP THIS FAMILY. The fact that we live in a society that makes a spectacle out of the plight of these people sickens me far beyond the looting or the crime or the corruption.

 

[Thump]

not cool, thump... we're talking about a person here..

It was the fact that he ASSUMED donny lived in a trailer that I couldn't help but laugh at.

 

[jwinslow]

well stated above that any society of any skin color would be reduced to this state. I can't even begin to fathom the gravity of this issue.

buckeyefool, you're still stuck on one line lv had way back. Like bn27 said, this is hardly the time or place to have a squabble over something so dumb.

i also don't see how there weren't any kinds of plans for a situation like this. It doesn't take a very smart person to realize that a town below sea level is fairly suspect to disaster.

Definitely not cool to make fun of donnyjr.

 

[Thump]

Definitely not cool to make fun of donnyjr.

I'm not making fun of him. I'm the one who first asked about him for crying out loud.

Lighten up Francis!!!

On another note:

Fats Domino Is Missing in New Orleans

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Embry told The Associated Press that he hadn't been able to contact Domino since talking to him Sunday evening by phone.
The 77-year-old R&B legend, whose real name is Antoine Domino, told Embry that he planned to stay at his New Orleans house with his wife, Rosemary, and their daughter.
"I hope somebody turns him up, but as of right now, we haven't got anybody that knows where he's at," said Embry, who has worked with Domino for 28 years. "I would think he might be safe because somebody said he was on top of the balcony."
Checquoline Davis, Domino's niece, posted a message on Craigslist.com Thursday pleading for information. Davis wrote that Domino, his wife, their children and grandchildren "didn't get out" of the second floor.
Domino, who has rarely appeared in public in recent years, has a home in the 9th ward, a low-lying area of the flooded city.
Getting information on possible missing persons has been nearly impossible as phone lines for hospitals and police haven't been working.
Domino has sold more than 110 million records in his long career, including the legendary singles "Blueberry Hill" and "Ain't That a Shame."
His 1950 recording of "The Fat Man" is sometimes called the first real rock 'n' roll record. He was among the first honorees to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

 

[Buck Nasty]

Definitely not cool to make fun of donnyjr.

Please Explain

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I understand they wouldn't let them....what I'm wondering is why? If I was in there and wanted to leave after the storm had passed, I would be pretty upset. Especially now knowing all the hell they went through with the rival gangs and crap. If I wanted to leave knowing what was out there, who are they to say I have to stay? What if I have family in Northern LA or somewhere else where I could stay?

 

[jwinslow]

I was referring to the trailer park comment, which was not by thump.

 

[jwinslow]

unreal

:(

BREAKING NEWS New Orleans hospital halts patient evacuations after coming under sniper fire, a doctor who witnessed the incident says. More soon.

I've also heard reports of helicopters taking gunfire.