Investigation Results (Merged)

[casey_buckeye]

We have a fan from the only school with a convicted felon on its roster throwing stones at another program. Typical Cryami piece of shit.

Is Eric Knott still at MSU?

 

[methomps]

Wow, I didn't realize stereo equipment was edible

Pass me some Pioneer please....

21, you are a cold, insensitive bastard! Think Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs and you will understand Willie's situation.

Okay, the most basic and immediate needs are "Physiological Needs". At this stage Willie was stealing to meet his needs of hunger, thirst, and a bitchin' sound system. Once those needs were realized, he moved on to "Safety Needs". Now, in prison little Willie learned that you either kick someone's ass on the first day or become somebody's bitch. So, what does he do his first night on his recruiting trip to Florida? He pounds some dude at a strip club.

With that accomplished, Willie turned to his "Social Needs". This covers Willie 'hugging' that girl in the dorm room. Finally, Willie looked to satisfy his "Esteem Needs". What bigger to build up one's self-esteem than running through smoke out into a cheering crowd? Willie didn't have a stadim full of people to run out to, so he used fire extinguishers and a hotel hallway.

Now, Willie's journey will be complete when he meets his "Self-Actualization Need". This can be different for each person. For KWII, it was realizing his dream of being an F'ing soldier with the 138th motorcylce company. For OJ, it was scouring the golf courses of Florida for the real killers. For Willie, I suspect it will be shitting on the bed of UM President Donna Shalalalalallalalalalalalallalalalalalalaala.

 

[martinss01]

The NCAA has cleared the football program of all ESPiN allegations. I can't help but wonder what Trev/Mark will say about any of this. I am relieved to finally be able to say: Tom Friend may officially rot in hell.

From BN:http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/379407.html

i see "ncaa finds osu guilty of 9 violations".

scbuck, buckeyetrail answered your question. though i imagine it was rather inadvertant. the fact that tOSU found the problems, self reported the problems, AND properly handed down punishments is 100% irrelivant. espin will call this a win for them. "they" broke the story and "they" were right all along. it won't matter that nearly every misdeed is from last year and the only one that wasn't is over a few pair of braces. they are not going to report that because they don't have to. what they will report is exactly what they did. tOSU IS GUILTY OF 9 NCAA VIOLATIONS.

even though we won, we lost. if any of you are expecting anything other than gloating over all of this by espin... try not to be too dissapointed.

 

[TexasBuck]

Even though we won, we lost. QUOTE]

Have to agree with that. I doubt any major football program in the country could withstand being under the microscope for 2 years by the national news media, the NCAA and internal investigators and have only 1 self reported violation result. This is a huge win that vindicates the program.

However, we will be considered a dirty football program by the average sportsfan for some time to come. It will not be easy to reshape the negative perception created by the irresponsible media.

 

[tibor75]

Why the hate for ESPN? If some people would keep their hand out to the cookie jar in the first place, they wouldn't report anything. It's not hard to keep your athletic program out of the news for a few days.

Because OSU fans are ignorant. They act like the whole media is out to get them. It's quite funny actually.

Check your warnings, asswipe.

yeah, let's warn a poster for stating an opinion.

 

[Dryden]

The NCAA did not find any wrongdoing by the university regarding former tailback Maurice Clarett's claims in a national publication.

Great stuff. The only question remaining though is now that OSU has invited the NCAA to thoroughly investigate the football program TWICE, been commended by Myles Brand as a model of compliance, and now been completely exhonorated of all charges aside from the one that became known after all the other crap was fabricated by a displaced, disgruntled running back and corroborated by a bunch of thugs who couldn't cut it during the transition from Cooper's staff to Tressel's ... I dare say, what will Tom Friend, Seth Wickerstram, Pat Forde, Dennis Dodd at CBS, and that crackpot Mandel at SI ... what will all these idiots write about?

Really, I think we all need to write these people some letters with story suggestions.

My first letter to Friend, Forde, and Dodd specifically will be in regards to the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics.

http://spj.org/ethics_code.asp

I swear, the one that really frustrates me is Dodd's continued cracks at the program, such as the article discussing Ted Ginn and other Heisman candidates. At least everyone else gave up the OSU mugging baton after our season ended on Dec 29, but Dodd (and Forde) have been relentless with their jokes.

In light of the vindication of the OSU football program, I think it's time to get the SPJ involved regarding previous articles that have damaged OSU.

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[Ratboy18]

I haven't been paying attention to the basketball team's problems, so I don't know if this is new info (which would fall under the "we received new information over the weekend" comment) or old:

Sports Digest



Claim: Wendy's founder offered money to player



Sunday, May 15, 2005







A woman who says she fed, housed and gave money to an Ohio State basketball player claims the founder of the Wendy's restaurant chain offered the player an envelope full of cash.

Kathleen Salyers alleges that Dave Thomas, the Wendy's founder and television pitchman, came to her house in 1999 around the time of Ohio State's trip to the Final Four.

An Ohio State booster who Salyers claims accompanied Thomas to her house denies the meeting ever took place.

Salyers said Thomas offered Ohio State player Boban Savovic an envelope "filled with a thick pile of money."

"I took it out of Boban's hand, looked inside and saw what it was," Salyers told The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer. "I immediately handed it back to Dave Thomas and said, 'He can't accept this.' I was very protective of Boban, and I knew that was against the rules. Dave Thomas was very polite about it. He said, 'I didn't know it was against the rules.' "

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/152sd9.htm

 

[Dryden]

So Salyers and Savovic snubbed Dave Thomas?

Do both of them still have all ten fingers?

I guess this is why our women's team needs the free dental work ... too many Frostys.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Be Accountable
Journalists are accountable to their readers, listeners, viewers and each other.

What a crock. They are accountable to their employers' Sales Department only.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

I am waiting for ESPN all the rest of the media to report the NCAA findings with the same intensity they reported the MOC allegations....


How many times must our football program be put on public trial only to be proven innocent by the NCAA?

 

[Steve19]

Because OSU fans are ignorant. They act like the whole media is out to get them. It's quite funny actually.



yeah, let's warn a poster for stating an opinion.

Gosh, I guess you're right Tibor! ESPiN complies with all those ethical practices Dryden posted. ESPiN didn't really set out to smear OSU and destroy its image by regularly repeating the allegations that they knew to be untrue and disproven by the NCAA. They didn't devote major portions of airtime in an unprecedented campaign against Ohio State. And the campaign didn't adversely affect someone like Andy Geiger who should have been enjoying the end of his career or smear our coaches and players.

Gosh, I guess you're right, it is really funny !

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I am waiting for ESPN all the rest of the media to report the NCAA findings with the same intensity they reported the MOC allegations....


How many times must our football program be put on public trial only to be proven innocent by the NCAA?

Didn't you hear the espin "story" yet? "More trouble for Ohio State Athletics...."

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Steve19.....why even bother responding to Tibor, he is not even a credible poster on this board at this point.

Didn't you hear the espin "story" yet? "More trouble for Ohio State Athletics...."

BN27.....I guess I should have expected the twist of the truth once again....:hatepc:

 

[Bucks07]

The NCAA has concluded its six-month investigation into allegations by former Buckeye Maurice Clarett and found no substance to claims that he received cash from boosters, loaner cars from coaches and money for bogus summer work.

After absorbing relentless hits through the media last November and December — most notably from ESPN — the Buckeyes have been exonerated.

Ahhh, sweet relief. Maurice can go foricate himself with an iron stick now. Not that I'm bitter or anything Seriously, I hope hes actually grown up some and not just playing the part and saying all the right things.

Also ESPN will never retract or apoligize for their spin on everything, they believed they were doing their job reporting. Fair and unbiased reporting is another thing...

EDIT..

Didn't you hear the espin "story" yet? "More trouble for Ohio State Athletics...."

This came up while I was posting, is this serious? Any ideas what it is?

 

[Buckinghorse]

Because OSU fans are ignorant. They act like the whole media is out to get them. It's quite funny actually.



yeah, let's warn a poster for stating an opinion.

What's wrong tibor, upset that nothing came out of the ESPIN crap?

By the way, rumor is you're the 'inside source' used by Newsweek in the recent Quran article. You wouldn't happen to go by the name Mr. Such and Such do you?