Into the Wild - Book / Movie / Soundtrack

[Taosman]

A thought from Edward Abbey;

"One final paragraph of advice: Do not burn yourself out. Be as I am-a reluctant enthusiast... a part time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic.
Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it is still there.
So get out there and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, encounter the grizz, climb the mountains.
Run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, that lovely, mysterious and awesome space.
Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to your body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much:
I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those deskbound people with their hearts in a safe deposit box and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators.
I promise you this: you will outlive the bastards."?

 

[DaytonBuck]

A thought from Edward Abbey;

"One final paragraph of advice: Do not burn yourself out. Be as I am-a reluctant enthusiast... a part time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic.
Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it is still there.
So get out there and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, encounter the grizz, climb the mountains.
Run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, that lovely, mysterious and awesome space.
Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to your body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much:
I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those deskbound people with their hearts in a safe deposit box and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators.
I promise you this: you will outlive the bastards."?

Chicken Sandwich back on the roof again?

 

[Taosman]

Chicken Sandwich back on the roof again?

Explain?

 

[tibor75]

Ha ha. Was this drone your brother or what?

Krakauer himself wrote "That ambivalence turned to regret on June 9, when he shot and killed a large caribou, which he mistakenly identified as a moose in his journal."


and ..... " McCandless had been digging and eating root of the wild potato, a common area wildflower also known as Eskimo potato, which Kari's book told him was widely eaten by native Alaskans-for more than a month without ill effect. There is, however, a closely related plant-wild sweet pea- that is very difficult to distinguish from wild potato, grows beside it, and is poisonous. In all likelihood McCandless mistakenly ate some seeds from the wild sweet pea and became gravely ill."

That's coming right from your boy Krakauer's pen.

I'm no hunter, but I sure as hell can tell the difference between a caribou and a moose.

Looks like you're wrong here.

From the book: "Contrary to what I reported in Outside, the animal was a moose, as a close examination of the beast's remains now indicated and several of...photographs of the kill later confirmed beyond all doubt"

I'm assuming reading isn't among your hobbies. Maybe try reading the book before exposing your ignorance further?

 

[AKAK]

A thought from Edward Abbey;

"One final paragraph of advice: Do not burn yourself out. Be as I am-a reluctant enthusiast... a part time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic.
Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it is still there.
So get out there and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, encounter the grizz, climb the mountains.
Run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, that lovely, mysterious and awesome space.
Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to your body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much:
I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those deskbound people with their hearts in a safe deposit box and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators.
I promise you this: you will outlive the bastards."?

.... and don't forget the power bars... and satellite phone...


Fair warning... I haven't read the book...

I do however, remember seeing this on 60 minutes or 20/20 or CNN or one of those shows not too long after they found his body (well, not sure when I saw that really... at least 2000, but probably before) Complete with crying mother stricken with guilt for letting her son have gone down this path...

I remember at the time feeling kind of bad for the kid because I was pretty sure he was bipolar... I've caught some of the magazine sotries in the meantime while bored on a treadmill at the gym... and... yeah... I think this survivalist thing has been sort of thrust on him posthumously.... and... remember thinking watching the TV special... and... the gut wrenching messages on the bus wall and in his diary that he was out of his element... though, obviously, operating without a safety net was part of his "thing"

At any rate... I do kind of feel bad for the guy in the sense that he was just looking for "something" and... somewhere in the wilderness and the self inflicted hardship I guess he expected to find that "something" within himself... and to me the story becomes sad when what he finds is suffering and death in an abaondoned car... and... that sucks, because... I'm sure most all of us have a ceratin ideal about what it is that's deep inside them that's greater than what we "know" about ourselves now... at least he beleived that "something" was there, I guess... and that's a very good thing... unfortunately.... being dead makes that hard to find.

 

[Brutus1]

Actually, later on in the book Krakauer talks about how it was in fact a moose, not a caribou, based on photographic evidence. I don't have the book here at work, so I can't look up the actual page of this discussion. Some of you have really selective memories!

I guess he should have fixed that mistake before it was printed.

It doesn't change the fact that his own naiveness/stupidity got him killed.

 

[Brutus1]

From the book: "Contrary to what I reported in Outside, the animal was a moose, as a close examination of the beast's remains now indicated and several of...photographs of the kill later confirmed beyond all doubt"

I'm assuming reading isn't among your hobbies. Maybe try reading the book before exposing your ignorance further?

Why read the book when the stupidity can easily be shown in a few pages?

He screwed up and paid for it. Good for you for buying into his sob story.
Sucker.

 

[Wingate1217]

Why read the book when the stupidity can easily be shown in a few pages?

He screwed up and paid for it. Good for you for buying into his sob story.
Sucker.

Aren't the roles just reversed here?? It is usually Tibor that is playing the violin.....

 

[Brutus1]

Aren't the roles just reversed here?? It is usually Tibor that is playing the violin.....

Yea, he's usually the one laughing at the misfortune of others. For some reason, he's invested in this one.

 

[tibor75]

Why read the book when the stupidity can easily be shown in a few pages?

He screwed up and paid for it. Good for you for buying into his sob story.
Sucker.

Spoken like a true intellectual. I can see why this discussion escapes you. Ever hear people say, "that movie/book sucks" and when you ask why they say "I didn't see it. My friend said it was bad".

where in this thread have I shown sympathy for his death?

At least when I laugh at other's misfortunes, I'm well informed.

 

[WyoBuck]

GPA?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I died a meaningless death in the Alaskan wilderness and now I'm a martyr for every suburban Kerouac-London-Hemingway-everyfreakingcornballstereotypicalJamesDean-MarlonBrandosaturdaymatineecharacterwannabe ever conceived.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Brutus1]

Doubt anybody here could do that.

POINTLESS

The fact that he went with "no equipment" was the point. Pretty easy to survive in the wild if you have a stove and water purifier.

Yea, pretty easy to survive in the 'wild' when you take a rifle and spend your nights sleeping in a bus that was fitted with a bedding area and crude barrel stove. He was really roughing it.

 

[Buckeyedynasty]

My girlfriend read the book and liked it a lot. She wants to see the movie but hasn't gotten the chance.