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Indians Tidbits (2010 season)

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NFBuck;1687539; said:
Carmona looks the same as last year. But, the bullpen preserved a fragile 2 run lead! So one positive, one negative.
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Eh. Not sure how much you watched, but his strike-zone sucked. If he had the same zone as Peavy, those 6 walks are 4 strikeouts. Hell, he threw a pitch over the middle of the plate that Redmond dropped and the umpire called it a ball. The guys pitching struggles are in the minds of the umpires...at least this guy tonight. I thought he had a gutsy ass performance. Only 1 hit and a lot of borderline strikes that go his way if he rebuilds his reputation, IMO.
 
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billmac91;1687542; said:
Eh. Not sure how much you watched, but his strike-zone sucked. If he had the same zone as Peavy, those 6 walks are 4 strikeouts. Hell, he threw a pitch over the middle of the plate that Redmond dropped and the umpire called it a ball. The guys pitching struggles are in the minds of the umpires...at least this guy tonight. I thought he had a gutsy ass performance. Only 1 hit and a lot of borderline strikes that go his way if he rebuilds his reputation, IMO.
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I watched off & on as I was doing some work, but what I saw, he still seemed to struggle with his command. Maybe I just caught the bad parts, I'll take your word for it. Good to see them show some fight tonight too...in the second game no less. In past years, they would've folded like the m*ch*g*n pass defense.
 
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NFBuck;1687539; said:
Carmona looks the same as last year. But, the bullpen preserved a fragile 2 run lead! So one positive, one negative.
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Laffey looks good

he could be a guy they can ride being a starter in the pen, rather than doing wedge like things like trying to pitch Gas Can Lewis and Raffy Perez for 2 or 3 innings in the same game
 
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NFBuck;1687544; said:
I watched off & on as I was doing some work, but what I saw, he still seemed to struggle with his command. Maybe I just caught the bad parts, I'll take your word for it. Good to see them show some fight tonight too...in the second game no less. In past years, they would've folded like the m*ch*g*n pass defense.
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there were times when his command was bad. there were several times where the indians dugout could be heard screaming at the home plate ump over some calls.

by the by, an eric wedge managed team does not win that game last night.
 
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NFBuck;1687544; said:
I watched off & on as I was doing some work, but what I saw, he still seemed to struggle with his command. Maybe I just caught the bad parts, I'll take your word for it. Good to see them show some fight tonight too...in the second game no less. In past years, they would've folded like the m*ch*g*n pass defense.
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Thing is.... Fausto always will struggle with his command. Or, always has. That's never been the problem. The problem is him believing in his stuff....

I'll never forget that Torrii Hunter quote a couple years ago where he said he felt like he was drunk trying to hit him.

Anyway, the key with him is to keep battling, not give in and throw gas. And while 6 are too many... you kind of have to live with 3 or 4 walks with him because of the movement.... and... yeah, he got hosed on a couple calls (though, I do kind of feel like it went both ways, Peavy didn't get some I thought most other umpires would have given-- he threw a shit ton of pitches early... seemed pretty tight to be for both sides)

Anyway... yeah... Pronk needs to be lower in the lineup... I don't know if he's healthy or off the juice or what, but, he's up there gritting his teeth and ripping with guys on base.... hit the guy fucking 7th or something to see if he's ever gonna get near his old self.... it will help him and the team.

Postive night for Fausto, though, I think. A "W" in your start never hurts.

Meanwhile, I hope Santana is closer than we think....
 
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AKAKBUCK;1687798; said:
Thing is.... Fausto always will struggle with his command. Or, always has. That's never been the problem. The problem is him believing in his stuff....

I'll never forget that Torrii Hunter quote a couple years ago where he said he felt like he was drunk trying to hit him.
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It looked like after one of his at bats, Konerko was in the dugout using hand motions to explain the movement of Fausto's pitches to the other guys. Then it looked like he said something like "It moves like crazy." Or I could have completely made that up, but if not, it's a good sign if opposing hitters are going back to the dugout and talking about his stuff during his first start.
 
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Mr_Burns;1687858; said:
It looked like after one of his at bats, Konerko was in the dugout using hand motions to explain the movement of Fausto's pitches to the other guys. Then it looked like he said something like "It moves like crazy." Or I could have completely made that up, but if not, it's a good sign if opposing hitters are going back to the dugout and talking about his stuff during his first start.
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They were fooled all game (except Konerko's hammer) and I agree that he was pinched in the zone a few times, especially early. I think he looked pretty good...still sort of wild, but pretty good.
 
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