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Indians Tidbits (2008 season)

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Aaaaand they finish at...

.222
.215
.229
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Seriously, do these guys even give a fuck? How can a team that was one fucking win away from the World Series become this much of a joke offensively. 75 wins. Max.
 
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Another thing, I hope C.C. can get his fat ass back on track or we may not be able to get shit for him come trade deadline (provided Shapiro's ass has the common sense to move him when we're inevitably out of contention). Teams won't give up shit for a struggling, out of shape lefty with a lot of miles already on his arm, especially with Zito doing his best Steve Blass impression by the Bay. At this point, I don't even want to pay up for him. We already have one overbloated contract to a former star who is suddenly past his prime.
 
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NFBuck;1155891; said:
Another thing, I hope C.C. can get his fat ass back on track or we may not be able to get shit for him come trade deadline (provided Shapiro's ass has the common sense to move him when we're inevitably out of contention). Teams won't give up shit for a struggling, out of shape lefty with a lot of miles already on his arm, especially with Zito doing his best Steve Blaine impression by the Bay. At this point, I don't even want to pay up for him. We already have one overbloated contract to a former star who is suddenly past his prime.
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If he gets his shit together why would you want to trade him? Just curious.
 
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Best Buckeye;1155892; said:
If he gets his shit together why would you want to trade him? Just curious.
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He's a free agent after this season, and there's no way we'd be able to afford him. If we're out of contention (looking more and more likely by the game), we may as well get some prospects for him as opposed to getting jack shit when Oakland or Anaheim or whoever pays $20M a year for him. Leftys make big bucks and are always in demand, but if he continues to pitch like shit, that demand will shrink. In short get something before losing him for nuthin'.
 
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NFBuck;1155896; said:
He's a free agent after this season, and there's no way we'd be able to afford him. If we're out of contention (looking more and more likely by the game), we may as well get some prospects for him as opposed to getting jack shit when Oakland or Anaheim or whoever pays $20M a year for him. Leftys make big bucks and are always in demand, but if he continues to pitch like shit, that demand will shrink. In short get something before losing him for nuthin'.
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The amazing thing is that even with our pathetic offense and relief pitching and C. C. that being the dominator anymore we are still only one game out of first place. If we do get rid of C. C. during the season, I don't want him traded for any prospects we have too many of them. I want him traded for some veteran players or maybe just one player who knows how to hit. Maybe we can bundle C. C. and Hafner together and trade them as a package deal and then we could really go shopping before next season.
 
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Can we not voluntarily contract both Ohio teams into one and see if we couldn't put a decent product on the field? As a Reds fan I'd be happy to give it a try, we sure as shit aren't going anywhere by ourselves and we have some decent players.
 
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Jaxbuck;1156038; said:
Can we not voluntarily contract both Ohio teams into one and see if we couldn't put a decent product on the field? As a Reds fan I'd be happy to give it a try, we sure as shit aren't going anywhere by ourselves and we have some decent players.
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Can't speak for all of the Indians fans but I just could not do that. I have this illness when I start to talk about teams in Ohio located south of Columbus:biggrin:
 
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:rofl:

this team is such a joke

Laffey pitches a great game and is about to get another loss because of piss poor fielding and non existent hitting

we need to look into a 3rd basemen, Blake and Marte are both garbage neither of them are any good at the plate or in the field
 
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LitlBuck;1156025; said:
The amazing thing is that even with our pathetic offense and relief pitching and C. C. that being the dominator anymore we are still only one game out of first place. If we do get rid of C. C. during the season, I don't want him traded for any prospects we have too many of them. I want him traded for some veteran players or maybe just one player who knows how to hit. Maybe we can bundle C. C. and Hafner together and trade them as a package deal and then we could really go shopping before next season.
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Maybe just "prospects" was the wrong word. I'd like some good young bats, preferably a corner outfielder or a third baseman. We have a lot of good young arms, but not a lot of "blue chip" position players on the farm. There's no way we could package Pronk with C.C., those are two HUGE contracts and Pronk is completely worthless right now. If he wasn't making megabucks, he'd be warming the bench. He's in the Giambi category right now as far as money/production ratio. We're still in a decent spot, but Detroit is gonna start pulling away because we just have too awful a lineup to keep up.

We all know Shapiro isn't going to throw money around in free agency, so the best way to get back into contention is going to be to build through youth again. The tearing down of the team back in '02-'03 yielded a couple of competitive years, but it's looking more and more like that has run its course. We have some cornerstones to build around in Grady, Victor(though he's not young anymore), Fausto and some of the young pitchers, but moves are gonna have to be made to restock. I'm fearing that we may be in for a couple of rough years again before the Tribe is ready to be truly competitive again.

This current lineup is actually looking more inept than those early 90's teams that featured such luminaries as Alex Cole.
 
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buckeyemania11;1156128; said:
this lineup is epic

Sizemore .277
Guttierez .253
Dellucci .254
Martinez .347
Peralta .216
Hafner .209
Garko .242
Blake .202
Cabrera .191
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I'd say it's about time to look at replacing Cabrera with Barfield at second. Cabrera is just not coming around at all.
 
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